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12-15-2003, 06:13 PM
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Regards to Atticus
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Then the solider(s) should have said, "The Kamel brothers say hello" or something like that. If it's "personal," as you say, the worst thing SH did to GWB was embarrass his father.
If this were WWII and the bunker were outside Berlin, I think we'd all find it a little odd of the soldier to say, "Greetings from President Truman." With so many others who actually died for that cause, it would seem anticlimactic. It would have been something more manly, patriotic, and American, like "Uncle Sam told me to kick your Hun ass" before pulling the pin and diving into the foxhole.
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McArthur (sp?) used to have his name invoked like that. Truman, no.
I think it has something to do with a soldier's perception of leadership.
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12-15-2003, 06:14 PM
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President Bush Sends His Regards
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Neither person was changed by the experience . . .
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One, however, was amused, which can be enough by itself on a Monday.
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12-15-2003, 06:16 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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President Bush Sends His Regards
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
He goaded you into calling the White House liars, and you fell for it.
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I used the word "fiction," and he unsuccessfully goaded me into trying to say more. Not an edifying moment, but I did manage to unload some riverfront property in Salto del Guaira.
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12-15-2003, 06:23 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Regards to Atticus
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Originally posted by bilmore
McArthur used to have his name invoked like that. Truman, no.
I think it has something to do with a soldier's perception of leadership.
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Whaddaya mean? Truman had the guts to drop the Bomb on those slants, and saved a bunch of GIs. He was a good feller.
(Your ability to see every situation as yet another way in which Bush bestrides the world like a Colossus is getting to be a little too cute.)
I will go on record saying that what the American soldier said was neither bad nor wrong, but it was a missed opportunity to credit the supposedly international effort to subdue post-war Iraq and find SH. I believe it also demeans the purpose of our being there. But, I'm sure it was fun to say, esp. if the soldier is a Bush voter.
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12-15-2003, 06:27 PM
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No Rank For You!
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This is Cool
The Mossad first used this when they took out JFK
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12-15-2003, 06:28 PM
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No Rank For You!
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Regards to Atticus
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Originally posted by bilmore
McArthur (sp?)
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What are you, a fucking commie?
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12-15-2003, 06:33 PM
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Too Lazy to Google
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Thurmond's Family Confirms that Essie Mae is His Love Child
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12-15-2003, 06:37 PM
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Regards to Atticus
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I will go on record saying that what the American soldier said was neither bad nor wrong, but it was a missed opportunity to credit the supposedly international effort to subdue post-war Iraq and find SH. I believe it also demeans the purpose of our being there. But, I'm sure it was fun to say, esp. if the soldier is a Bush voter.
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I will go on record (oo, fun phrase) as saying that my comments went more to what some nineteen-year-old soldier would think of to say in the heat of the moment. Likely the first thing to cross his mind, because, unlike Truman, I think Bush has more of a commander persona to the kid soldiers.
Really, a "missed opportunity to credit the supposedly international effort to subdue post-war Iraq and find SH"? You mean, "Kofi says hi"? Or maybe "President Chirac would be here to welcome you if he could, sir"? You're trying to write dialogue that wouldn't even pass muster in your reality shows. When you're here parsing the words that soldier said as he discovered SH, I think you're making a point you don't really want to make.
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12-15-2003, 06:37 PM
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Regards to Atticus
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Originally posted by bilmore
I think it has something to do with a soldier's perception of leadership.
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Amusing.
Very amusing.
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12-15-2003, 06:38 PM
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Regards to Atticus
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... unlike Truman, I think Bush has more of a commander persona to the kid soldiers.
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Stop it! Stop it!
Too rich!
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12-15-2003, 06:39 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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This is Cool
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Originally posted by Not Temp Sock
The Mossad first used this when they took out JFK
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Actually, the Germans came up with this first, about sixty years ago.
More.
There is no truth to the hoary myth that the English were developing a longbow that could shoot around corners but abandoned it after the Battle of Poitiers.
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12-15-2003, 06:46 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Regards to Atticus
Quote:
Originally posted by bilmore
Really, a "missed opportunity to credit the supposedly international effort to subdue post-war Iraq and find SH"? You mean, "Kofi says hi"? Or maybe "President Chirac would be here to welcome you if he could, sir"? You're trying to write dialogue that wouldn't even pass muster in your reality shows.
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I'm sorry. I'd been led to believe there were other nations that were helping us --- er, President Bush --- in post-war Iraq. Something about "coalition forces." But I listen to NPR, and maybe they were talking about Italian-American and Spanish-American and British-American soldiers and were too ashamed to say the "American" part.
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12-15-2003, 06:49 PM
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Regards to Atticus
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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
But I listen to NPR, and maybe they were . . . too ashamed to say the "American" part.
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Yeah, that sounds like NPR.
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12-15-2003, 07:18 PM
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Serenity Now
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Regards to Atticus
Quote:
Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I will go on record saying that what the American soldier said was neither bad nor wrong, but it was a missed opportunity to credit the supposedly international effort to subdue post-war Iraq and find SH. I believe it also demeans the purpose of our being there. But, I'm sure it was fun to say, esp. if the soldier is a Bush voter.
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You've now officially joined Ty in the "they've lost it crowd." Updates to follow.
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12-15-2003, 07:31 PM
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Hello, Dum-Dum.
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Regards to Atticus
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Originally posted by sgtclub
You've now officially joined Ty in the "they've lost it crowd." Updates to follow.
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Do we have T-shirts? Ty, PM me. All is forgiven! Today, I am a man.
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