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Old 10-02-2007, 11:14 PM   #3166
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:18 PM   #3167
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Bahahahahahahahahaha.

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... and it's not like there's an election going on.
Yet there is a Democrat debate every other day

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And since the GOP has been trying its damnedest to talk about the Moveon ad instead of, say, Iraq, you might deem the ad a subsidy of Republicans rather than all the Democrats who lined up to vote to condemn it.
We talk about Iraq all the time. But the only news that seems worthy of the MSM is "bad" news.

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Unless I'm missing something, Will is willfully (heh) confusing speech about an issue of current interest with speech aimed to benefit a candidate during an election. I know that those categories are somewhat slippery, but here it's just not that hard.
I thought it was that they were complicit in a hatchet, partisan smear ad demeaning a (non-elected) General
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:35 PM   #3168
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Bahahahahahahahahaha.
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How come hil can speak at KOs w/o it being news but if a Rep speaks at bob jones it's his ass?
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:08 AM   #3169
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How come hil can speak at KOs w/o it being news but if a Rep speaks at bob jones it's his ass?
Kos never excluded black people? Just guessing here.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:12 AM   #3170
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Kos never excluded black people? Just guessing here.
I'm not good at the search function, but I am kinda remembering you saying Kos was lunatic fringe.

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Old 10-03-2007, 12:13 AM   #3171
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Bahahahahahahahahaha.
I know you have a hard time distinguishing Olympia Snowe from Vladimir Lenin, but I'm happy I could give you a chuckle.

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Yet there is a Democrat debate every other day
I know you don't think the Moveon ad was aimed at a Republican candidate, and I'm pretty sure you don't think the FEC should be regulating political speech, but the opportunity to bitch about the NYT is just too much to pass up, huh?

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We talk about Iraq all the time. But the only news that seems worthy of the MSM is "bad" news.
The ethnic cleansing has been excellent for Iraq's moving companies. How come you never hear about that?

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I thought it was that they were complicit in a hatchet, partisan smear ad demeaning a (non-elected) General
Loopy and non-responsive. Nicely done.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:14 AM   #3172
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I'm not good at the search function, but I am kinda remembering you saying Kos was lunatic fringe.
Emphasis on "kinda," but it's a big site, and if you spend your time there I'm sure you can find some lunatics.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:25 AM   #3173
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I know you don't think the Moveon ad was aimed at a Republican candidate,
remember back when you all were running Dukakis? Was that Willie horton ad for a race or was it fact specific as to a parole decision?
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:26 AM   #3174
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Who did security and stuff for diplomats? Has it always been people who aren't military or employees of the government?
You mean for American diplomats abroad? Traditionally that has been a USMC function. Wikipedia. A family friend lived in some pretty swank places doing this. Beats the shit out of Guadalcanal, no?
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:35 AM   #3175
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Emphasis on "kinda," but it's a big site, and if you spend your time there I'm sure you can find some lunatics.
but the next time slave cites to it, you'll stand behind it? or you gonna claim it's extreme again?
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remember back when you all were running Dukakis? Was that Willie horton ad for a race or was it fact specific as to a parole decision?
The ad talked about Dukakis who -- unlike Gen. Petraeus -- are you still with me? -- was a party's candidate for political office.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:51 AM   #3177
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The ad talked about Dukakis who -- unlike Gen. Petraeus -- are you still with me? -- was a party's candidate for political office.
okay. I'll trust you that there was nothing underlying the ad about the general that was meant to bleed over onto politicians................. if it is ever shown you're wrong about that, can we use it to show you really aren't to be trusted about anything else because you just say whatever plops into your brain?
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You mean for American diplomats abroad? Traditionally that has been a USMC function. Wikipedia. A family friend lived in some pretty swank places doing this. Beats the shit out of Guadalcanal, no?
i'll bet a guy like you, with predictable bathroom times, could really carve out a niche for himself in the secret service.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:01 AM   #3179
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okay. I'll trust you that there was nothing underlying the ad about the general that was meant to bleed over onto politicians................. if it is ever shown you're wrong about that, can we use it to show you really aren't to be trusted about anything else because you just say whatever plops into your brain?
I would not be surprised if Moveon also meant to attack the White House with that ad, but I'm pretty sure that there's a constitutional thingy that prevents Bush from running for a third term.

I'm still surprised that none of the conservatives around here have said that free speech about matters of political significance is important and that Will should STFU.
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Old 10-03-2007, 03:06 AM   #3180
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I'm still surprised that none of the conservatives around here have said that free speech about matters of political significance is important and that Will should STFU.
I think you meant "libertarian".

But I do note you point to the conservatives on this issue - since we are all know that liberals will and do stifle any and all debate that runs contrary to there meme de jour.
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