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07-11-2005, 02:06 PM
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#3211
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Originally posted by sgtclub
No, we have statutes that define what actions constitute crimes. Either the statute has been violated or it hasn't. Other than the scienter component (which I don't think we even been an issue, given the other requirements), this is a very straight forward question.
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It is also a very straightforward proposition, and I think you'll agree, that even if Rove is not found guilty, his actions are abhorrent and should not be tolerated by the Rs.
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07-11-2005, 02:10 PM
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Serenity Now
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
It is also a very straightforward proposition, and I think you'll agree, that even if Rove is not found guilty, his actions are abhorrent and should not be tolerated by the Rs.
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07-11-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
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I don't think "unseemly"* is synonymous with "abhorrent." And you can't really "STP" at someone who posts within a couple minutes of the post you are yapping at them to have noticed. They were in the process of replying. Touchy this morning, aren't you?
*which is the word you meant to use, I think
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07-11-2005, 02:30 PM
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Sidd Finch
If this is Rove's defense to identifying a covert CIA operative to a reporter because her husband dared to debunk Bush's "yellowcake uranium" story, then hallelujah and praise be.
Even more so if the Admin lines up behind it.
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This is the exact reason that the hallowed New York Times decided that no crime was committed several months ago.
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07-11-2005, 02:31 PM
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Shape Shifter
It is also a very straightforward proposition, and I think you'll agree, that even if Rove is not found guilty, his actions are abhorrent and should not be tolerated by the Rs.
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Yes, discrediting that oaf Wilson and pointing out the truth of the nepotism behind his appointment is really abhorrent.
Har de har har.
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07-11-2005, 02:42 PM
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#3216
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Yes, discrediting that oaf Wilson and pointing out the truth of the nepotism behind his appointment is really abhorrent.
Har de har har.
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Nepotism? How much was Wilson paid for his services? Who else had as much experience in the region as him?
I'll see your Har de har har and raise you a harumph.
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07-11-2005, 02:45 PM
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In my dreams ...
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He'd like to buy the world a Coke...
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Originally posted by Not Bob
I think that what the Spankster meant was that the large and vocal anti-war movement in France and Great Britain (there was an Oxford petition or resolution or something in which students vowed that they would not go to war for King and Country under any circumstances) emboldened Hitler and Mussolini in the mid to late 1930s.
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The '33 resolution of the Union Society was less a "peace movement" thing than an isolationist thing. Might as well call the French capitulation in '40 a "peace movement" rather than a "we just barely recovered from WWI and these Nazis can't be worse than another war like that" thing.
But, yes, Hitler did apparently take the resolution as an indication that the elites of Britain would not involve the country in a continental war and so he had something of a free pass to invade France and Poland.
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07-11-2005, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Nepotism? How much was Wilson paid for his services? Who else had as much experience in the region as him?
I'll see your Har de har har and raise you a harumph.
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Why respond to him? He is in Jonestown. He'll defend ANYTHING this administration does, no matter how illegal or repugnant. I'm actually embarassed that he's a lawyer, since he's clearly lost the ability to think for himself. I frequently have reasonable arguments with my friends who voted in this administration (many of them Milton Friedman clones), and every single one of them is capable of pointing out mistakes in this administration's judgment and policy. Why? Because they are intelligent enough to at least attempt to observe situations objectively.
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07-11-2005, 02:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Yes, discrediting that oaf Wilson and pointing out the truth of the nepotism behind his appointment is really abhorrent.
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Discrediting the statement that the yellowcake documents were forgeries, and therefore there was support for the claim of WMD? Yeah, that's a laudible goal.
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07-11-2005, 02:59 PM
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Serenity Now
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Discrediting the statement that the yellowcake documents were forgeries, and therefore there was support for the claim of WMD? Yeah, that's a laudible goal.
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In related news, the Weekly Standard is reporting new evidence of pre-war collaboration between Iraq and AQ here: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...5/804yqqnr.asp
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07-11-2005, 03:01 PM
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World Ruler
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Why respond to him? He is in Jonestown. He'll defend ANYTHING this administration does, no matter how illegal or repugnant. I'm actually embarassed that he's a lawyer, since he's clearly lost the ability to think for himself. I frequently have reasonable arguments with my friends who voted in this administration (many of them Milton Friedman clones), and every single one of them is capable of pointing out mistakes in this administration's judgment and policy. Why? Because they are intelligent enough to at least attempt to observe situations objectively.
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Slave = penske lite.
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07-11-2005, 03:07 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Where were you? I had two hotties lined up.
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Damn. I'm always a wingnut, never a wingman.
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
But I couldn't hold Ted Kennedy off forever. Fortunately, both were back at work this morning (I slipped them taxi fare to be safe).
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I assume the taxi fare was slipped into life preservers.
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07-11-2005, 03:10 PM
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Moderator
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I assume the taxi fare was slipped into life preservers.
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No. Female condoms. I figured that Teddy was buoyant enough to keep them all afloat, esp. since liquor is less dense than water.
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07-11-2005, 03:11 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
This pantywaist. You think I have the time to go read the boring forms I'd have to fill out to change her name? Fuck that.
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A non-pantywaist makes the wife research and complete the forms.
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07-11-2005, 03:16 PM
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In my dreams ...
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He'd like to buy the world a Dilithium Crystal...
Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I don't know how you can call him a repressed homosexual (Worf maybe, but Riker?)
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