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Old 09-01-2005, 07:04 PM   #3241
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Copyright and netiquette, more than space.
Ty's been making my eyes bleed with that small print. Oh, thats the cirrhosis... sorry, Ty. My bad.

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Old 09-01-2005, 07:04 PM   #3242
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Chertoff is the head of Homeland Security, and seems to be a capable guy. But the head of FEMA has a background in trusts and estates and worked in the legal department of the International Arabian Horse Association.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:06 PM   #3243
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Even the stuff about the apples?



How do you know my head is little?
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Because you can't get a huge head between a 9 year old's thighs.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:09 PM   #3244
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No, I said they're also voting to increase the size of the pie.
Cite, please, because the article doesn't say that.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:11 PM   #3245
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Chertoff is the head of Homeland Security, and seems to be a capable guy. But the head of FEMA has a background in trusts and estates and worked in the legal department of the International Arabian Horse Association.
And here I was thinking you objected to his being a bar examiner
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:12 PM   #3246
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Originally posted by Spanky I respect W. instincts on most issues, I respected Clinton's intellect and his judgement on many issues, I respected Bush I conduct of the Gulf war, I respect Carter as a person, I just think he made a bad president. I respect Ford. I guess that just makes me naive.
I think you're probably talking about W's political instincts. But what has W stated about the war that turned out to be true (other than that SH was a very, very bad man)?
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:13 PM   #3247
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Chertoff is the head of Homeland Security, and seems to be a capable guy. But the head of FEMA has a background in trusts and estates and worked in the legal department of the International Arabian Horse Association.
Personally, I'd limit my criticisms of the relative skills of political appointments, lest Ty@50 someday be ridiculed by the lovespawn of RT and Balt.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:20 PM   #3248
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I say judge them by their actions, not by their words -- or the words that you gave in a speech.

When I was in college, Betty Friedan spoke and mocked women of my generation for the attitude of "I'm not a feminist, but I want to be an astronaut." In other words, women who said that they hated feminism, based on a distorted idea of what feminism was, but whose actions showed that they were right at the heart of feminism and, in fact, that they were enormous beneficiaries of it.

People in rural red states demonstrate the same hypocrisy. "I'm anti-government, now where is my fucking farm subsidy, and how dare you close my national park."


P.S. If you can't see that this discussion has moved beyond what you originally said and whether what people are saying now is really directly responding to what you said then..... and if you can't see that having a discussion that is actually dynamic is a good thing.... then perhaps you should go back to talking about the deer.
You damn Yankees are all alike. You simply don't understand the God-fearing patriots of te south. We live in the tradition of Jefferson, where the government that rules least rules best. Now, we do help out the occassional farmer, particularly family farmers of good stock, and we do have a long traditional of military service, and nothin's wrong with servin your country, now, son, is it? We just don't see why the brave boys in the military ought to be forced to spend time on bases where it might snow or have other un-Godly weather, when here in the South our weather is always perfect.

But the government that rules least does indeed rule best. We don't need no government telling us how to treat our black folk. Well, we may think it's alright now for government to provide jobs to a few good ole boys down at the courthouse, and there's nothing wrong with having the A-tomic people over at Oak Ridge, because we may need that to blow up those Russians, or whoever it is we're against now, and the boys in Huntsville and Houston of course need a few space programs, but you're not against knowledge and learning about outer space, now, are you, you Godless communist. Just as long as the government doesn't encourage any interracial dating, and as long as we hire enough boys for the border patrol. Oh, and we can't let those abortionists get away with murder so a few government folks prosecuting such things - but you're not in favor of murder, now, are you boy?
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:20 PM   #3249
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Cite, please, because the article doesn't say that.
No, it doesn't, but as Slave is my witness, the current federal government has been spending money like drunken sailors. I thought we all knew this.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:22 PM   #3250
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Chertoff is the head of Homeland Security, and seems to be a capable guy. But the head of FEMA has a background in trusts and estates and worked in the legal department of the International Arabian Horse Association.
To be fair, it's not like he went directly from drafting wills to heading FEMA. He did get several years experience working on incident response planning with the administration before getting the FEMA job. Nice to know, however, that W took incident response planning in the wake of 9/11 so seriously he put a horse lawyer on it.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:22 PM   #3251
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Personally, I'd limit my criticisms of the relative skills of political appointments, lest Ty@50 someday be ridiculed by the lovespawn of RT and Balt.
Who said anything about skills? I'm sure the man is highly talented. It's just refreshing to see someone take the road less traveled by to get to that sort of important government post.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:26 PM   #3252
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No, it doesn't, but as Slave is my witness, the current federal government has been spending money like drunken sailors. I thought we all knew this.
I agree with that statement, but not the conclusions you draw from it.

The increases are almost all in defense and homeland security (and the tax cuts). While we can (and have) debate the wisdom of that, it's not really a pork-barrel expansion, but a belief that we need to spend more in those areas.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:28 PM   #3253
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I agree with that statement, but not the conclusions you draw from it.

The increases are almost all in defense and homeland security (and the tax cuts). While we can (and have) debate the wisdom of that, it's not really a pork-barrel expansion, but a belief that we need to spend more in those areas.
If I thought you were correct that those areas are the source of the increased spending, I would tend to agree. But what about the new drug benefit? That was a handout to pharma.
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:31 PM   #3254
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Who said anything about skills? I'm sure the man is highly talented. It's just refreshing to see someone take the road less traveled by to get to that sort of important government post.
When you say shit like this is really evidences you lack of understanding of how government works. The head of FEMA doesn't actually plug gaps in levees, he makes sure people who can do the work are in place. It is no different than most presidential appointments.

I knew actual high appointments during Clinton's term in my area of law. They weren't well-qualified- shit one was not even minimally qualified. Presidential appointments are a favor repaid.
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I agree with that statement, but not the conclusions you draw from it.

The increases are almost all in defense and homeland security (and the tax cuts). While we can (and have) debate the wisdom of that, it's not really a pork-barrel expansion, but a belief that we need to spend more in those areas.
Thank you Burger. These damn Yankees keep saying its pork when Halliburton gets a $7 billion contract for Iraq, but you and I know it's patriots like the good boys at Halliburton that will win this war against whatever we're against.
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