Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Can anyone recommend a good book on Boston's Big Dig? Saw a special on it last night and was intrigued enough to want to get the non-sugarcoated story.

[sgtclub]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040311/D818D5402.html

[terror attack in Spain - evidence of Al Qaeda responsibility]

No matter what Americans may currently think, the war on terrorism is alive and well and the most important issue in the campaign.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040311/D818D5402.html

[terror attack in Spain - evidence of Al Qaeda responsibility]

No matter what Americans may currently think, the war on terrorism is alive and well and the most important issue in the campaign.

How "well" is the war on terrorism if terrorists just killed 180 people in Spain?

What about all us Americans who think that the war on terrorism is too important to be left to the Bush Administration?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
How "well" is the war on terrorism if terrorists just killed 180 people in Spain?

Were these Basque terrorists? As far as I have heard, the Spanish think the Basque are the likely source of the terrorism.

We have had no further terrorist attacks on US soil. I would say that is a pretty good track record.

Ty, so are you saying Gore would have been able to prevent the Basque terrorists from bombing spain if he had been prez? You are being silly if you think that a US president can stop all terrorism in this world. Clinton sure couldn't do it.

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
What about all us Americans who think that the war on terrorism is too important to be left to the Bush Administration?

What about you? Feel free to vote your conscience in the next election. I will vote mine. And whichever candidate who wins the most electoral votes will win.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Not Me
Were these Basque terrorists? As far as I have heard, the Spanish think the Basque as the likely source of the terrorism.

There are reports today suggesting that Al Qaeda may be involved. One should be skeptical of such reports, but there they are.

We have had no further terrorist attacks on US soil. I would say that is a pretty good track record.

We're all happy for that.

Ty, so are you saying Gore would have been able to prevent the Basque terrorists if he had been prez?

No, but thanks for asking.

You are being silly if you think that a US president can stop all terrorism in this world.

I am silly, but not that silly.

What about you? Feel free to vote your conscience in the next election. I will vote mine. And whichever candidate with the most electoral votes will win.

But really, won't we all be winners?

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
There are reports today suggesting that Al Qaeda may be involved. One should be skeptical of such reports, but there they are.

I heard the reports but I have also heard that the explosives used are apparantly the same explosives the basque terrorists always use and there is other forensic evidence that this is the work of the Basque.

Even if it does turn out to be islamic terrorists, there is only so much a US administration can do to protect the entire world. These are soveriegn countries and we can pass on our intelligence to them, but what happens inside their borders the US has very little if any ability to control no matter who is president.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040311/D818D5402.html

[terror attack in Spain - evidence of Al Qaeda responsibility]

No matter what Americans may currently think, the war on terrorism is alive and well and the most important issue in the campaign.

If you feel that way, then you should hold the Bush administration accountable for ignoring that war to pursue a common tyrant having, even by their accounts, the most fleeting of contacts with terrorists.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040311/D818D5402.html

[terror attack in Spain - evidence of Al Qaeda responsibility]

No matter what Americans may currently think, the war on terrorism is alive and well and the most important issue in the campaign.

Hi Sgt., it surely is up there... but do you distinguish it from Musharraf's predecessors letting Khan sell nukes to North Korea?

Its all part and parcel of the same set of problems, and if it was Muslims that did this, my guess is that Southern Europe starts going crazy on immigrants.

Its all just so sad. Doesn't everybody like Spain?

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Not Me
We have had no further terrorist attacks on US soil. I would say that is a pretty good track record.

Let's remember that the first WTC bombing occurred on Feb. 26, 1993, and the second attack occurred almost 8.5 years later. Unless I'm forgetting something in between, there were no attacks in the US between those two. So while we can be grateful for the lack of any attack up to today, I think calling that a pretty good track record is premature.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
If you feel that way, then you should hold the Bush administration accountable for ignoring that war to pursue a common tyrant having, even by their accounts, the most fleeting of contacts with terrorists.

Numbskull, we don't need divisions to police terror cells in spain. How did the Iraq war DIVERT resources that would have prevented this? your whole line is so simple- you guys best think more before just spilling out this crap.

[Not Me]

California Supreme Court orders SF to stop marrying same sex couples.

http://beta.kpix.com/news/local/2004...Marriages.html

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
Let's remember that the first WTC bombing occurred on Feb. 26, 1993, and the second attack occurred almost 8.5 years later. Unless I'm forgetting something in between, there were no attacks in the US between those two. So while we can be grateful for the lack of any attack up to today, I think calling that a pretty good track record is premature.

I have little doubt that there will be another attack in the US at some point. When you have a free society like ours with porous borders, it is an extremely difficult task to stop this.

Bringing secular democracy, building a strong middle class, and ending islam's evil hold on the middle east along with bringing rights for women are the only things that will work in the long run.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Numbskull, we don't need divisions to police terror cells in spain. How did the Iraq war DIVERT resources that would have prevented this? your whole line is so simple- you guys best think more before just spilling out this crap.

Numbskull yourself. The point made was not that we could have prevented the Madrid bombings, but rather that the terrorists are doing well enough for us to worry about it in this election.

I won't spell it out for you because I don't have the time, but ponder this - we didn't put boots on the ground in Tora Bora when we had the chance. When you're done with that, try this - we don't have enough forces in Afghanistan to do anything else than hold Kabul, which allows a Taliban resurgence in the rest of the country as well as free flow back and forth between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

You must be having a difficult day.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
If you feel that way, then you should hold the Bush administration accountable for ignoring that war to pursue a common tyrant having, even by their accounts, the most fleeting of contacts with terrorists.

He was defending the Bush Administration's decision not to bomb Zarqawi so that there'd be a pretext to invade Iraq. Killing terrorists was not as important as trying to ensure international support for the invasion.*

* A bogus rationale that I have not seen repeated anywhere other than this site, but let's assume that was it for the sake of argument.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Doesn't everybody like Spain?

Not, apparently, the Basque separatists.