Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Contextually it was pretty funny. She turned your joke and used it against you.

Exactly. Normally I would say calling you a fatty is tired and lame BnB, but given the context, it was good for a chuckle.

However, your burn BnB, was most definitely superior in my opinion. I am sure Sunny will step up to the plate in the future.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
When I went to law school, women made up over 50% of the admissions. I don't see doctor or lawyer on this list. I thought we would be well on the way to catching up by now. And those salaries. Sheesh.

20 leading occupations of women

Occupation Percent of women Median weekly earnings

This chart really messes with the presentation of the data from the original study.

It drops fields, and by implication changes some assuptions. NFH's chart suggests that these are the 20 occupations with the highest percentage of women. This is not necessarily true. The data is from a list of the 20 occupations that employ the largest number of women in absolute terms. For example, number one on the DOL list is retail sales, with 1.9 million women, representing only 54% of the retail sales workforce. On NFH's list it's near the bottom.

So doctors and lawyers could be relatively high percentage wise and would never appear on this list because of the relatively low number in absolute terms, for both men and women. Indeed, I think there are probably other occupations with much higher percentages of women that are similarly off the list due to low absolute numbers (occupational therapists, massage therapists and interior designers come to mind)

Also, the "waiters and waitresses" seems to be a standard government category (the data is likely from a survey that deals with other questiosn as well), and simply lumps together all waitrons. I don't think there is a distinction with meaning contemplated by the study.

ET note that the DOL presentaion gets the percentage of women / percentage women thing right, too. And to see this edit message people keep mentioning.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
So calling me a fatty qualifies as a "good burn"?

I'm afraid I disagree. We'll have to go to Thurgreed for a ruling...

Actually, I'm the Court of highest appeal on fat related issues, and I rule in BNB's favor.

Gratuitous use of the term "fatty" is not a burn. Its akin to a whiff, but does not register high enough to require any reply at all.

[NW Native]

Originally posted by dtb
Elle MacPherson (I'm sure many people wish I looked like her...)
Helena Christiansen (that model chick)
Joan Severance (I don't even know why she's famous; she may be a model.)
Sela Ward (who kind of reminds me of Joan Severance)
Juliet Binoche

As long as you're going for the strong, dark, georgous (in a not too slutty way) what about Sandra Bullock or Audrey Hepburn (dead but definitely not slutty)?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Contextually it was pretty funny. She turned your joke and used it against you.

Overruled. Too cheap and easy. Your 5 year old neice could pull that one off.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by NW Native
As long as you're going for the strong, dark, georgous (in a not too slutty way) what about Sandra Bullock or Audrey Hepburn (dead but definitely not slutty)?

Sandra Bullock is the antithesis of sexy. If I was in a six month dry spell, she couldn't get me hard. If she doesn't stop playing the same frazzled damsel in every one of her films, she'll never get a leading role of any substance.

Oh yeh, I forgot... she once played a drunk.

And she's fat.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by NW Native
Sandra Bullock or Audrey Hepburn (dead but definitely not slutty)?

I am shocked that you even dare compare those two. To borrow a completely inappropriate sports metaphor, Bullock couldn't carry Hepburn's jock.

[dtb]

Originally posted by NW Native
As long as you're going for the strong, dark, georgous (in a not too slutty way) what about Sandra Bullock or Audrey Hepburn (dead but definitely not slutty)?

Sandra Bullock is too perky and Audrey Hepburn is too waifish. I could never be waifish. She's adorable, but it's too far from me to imagine myself looking like that.

(Unlike Elle MacPherson, for whom so many people mistake me -- it grows tiresome...)

Originally posted by dtb
Can't tell you if this is a good gossip site, but it does report the heartbreaking and hard-hitting stories about starlets and their miserable lives.

Heart-wrenching story of T&P

No, I meant the site about the contracts about the gay

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Overruled. Too cheap and easy. Your 5 year old neice could pull that one off.

It doesn't surprise me that you saw the "fatty" word as the entire insult and didn't take it contextually. It's just like that one time when you borrowed my water bong when you knew I was on my way back with some BC bud. I had to use Charlize Theron's apple for god's sake.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by dtb
Sandra Bullock is too perky and Audrey Hepburn is too waifish. I could never be waifish. She's adorable, but it's too far from me to imagine myself looking like that.

(Unlike Elle MacPherson, for whom so many people mistake me -- it grows tiresome...)

Elle's also a drunk. She did a month in rehab a few months back. I generally would never date a quitter, but it just made me heart her more.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by baltassoc
This chart really messes with the presentation of the data from the original study.

It drops fields, and by implication changes some assuptions. NFH's chart suggests that these are the 20 occupations with the highest percentage of women. This is not necessarily true. The data is from a list of the 20 occupations that employ the largest number of women in absolute terms. For example, number one on the DOL list is retail sales, with 1.9 million women, representing only 54% of the retail sales workforce. On NFH's list it's near the bottom.

So doctors and lawyers could be relatively high percentage wise and would never appear on this list because of the relatively low number in absolute terms, for both men and women. Indeed, I think there are probably other occupations with much higher percentages of women that are similarly off the list due to low absolute numbers (occupational therapists, massage therapists and interior designers come to mind)

Also, the "waiters and waitresses" seems to be a standard government category (the data is likely from a survey that deals with other questiosn as well), and simply lumps together all waitrons. I don't think there is a distinction with meaning contemplated by the study.

ET note that the DOL presentaion gets the percentage of women / percentage women thing right, too. And to see this edit message people keep mentioning.

Actually it's not my chart - it's from the US Census, thus the waiter/waitress thingy. And for the record, it's percent of women comprising the field. It's a partial sentence, get over it.

eta, not you balt. i'm telling rp to get over it.

And to add linkage. linkage ici

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Sandra Bullock is the antithesis of sexy ... And she's fat.

Dude, what planet are you on?

Oh, by the way, you had me nodding in agreement during the "tell your wife to button her shirt" discussion.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Actually it's not my chart

Well, duh.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by dtb
Audrey Hepburn is too waifish.

Not in Sabrina (at least after her return from Paris).

(I'm more of a Humphrey Bogart than a William Holden, so I like that movie.)