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Old 05-01-2004, 02:42 PM   #3286
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Old 05-01-2004, 03:09 PM   #3288
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Which thee were just oh-so-convinced didn't exist. Say Hello to Marx, Lenin, Stalin and all of Peter's other socks, For Me!
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Old 05-02-2004, 08:04 AM   #3289
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"'We won': Fallujah rejoices in Withdrawal

Covering their faces with checkered head scarves, militiamen loyal to a former Iraqi army general jubilantly took to the streets of this battle-scarred city Saturday to celebrate what they called a triumph over withdrawing U.S. Marines.

As the militiamen drove through Fallujah in trucks and congregated on deserted street corners, residents flashed V-for-victory signs and mosques broadcast celebratory messages proclaiming triumph over the Americans.

Although the militiamen were scheduled to take over checkpoints and patrol duties from Marine units Friday, many of those tasks appeared to go unfulfilled Saturday. Several of the militiamen, clad in street clothes and toting battered AK-47 rifles, said they were still waiting for orders from their commanders. But as they waited, many said their first priority was to rejoice.

'We won,' said one of the militiamen, a former soldier who gave his name only as Abu Abdullah, meaning the father of Abdullah. 'We didn't want the Americans to enter the city and we succeeded.'

A few miles away at the headquarters of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force, Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, the top Marine commander in Iraq, also praised the turn of events in Fallujah. He told reporters that the new Iraqi force, which he authorized in an effort to quell insurgent activity, 'marked the formation of a military partnership that has the potential to bring a lasting, durable climate of peace and stability.'

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These guys hardly sound like neutral observers, or good partners. That's what we need, a bunch of ragged guys in headscarves and/or balaclavas racing through the streets in pickup trucks flipping off the Americans and keeping "order."

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Old 05-02-2004, 01:14 PM   #3290
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Pregnant mother, four daughters laid to rest

A pregnant mother and her four daughters were shot dead Sunday after two terrorists opened fire at Israeli cars traveling near the Kissufim Crossing at the entrance to the Gush Katif settlement bloc in the Gaza Strip.

The dead were identified as Tali Hatuel, 34, eight months pregnant and her daughters Hila, 11, Hadar, 9, Roni, 7, Merav, 2 all from the settlement of Katif. The five were laid to rest 6.30 pm on Sunday at the new cemetery in Ashkelon. Tali's husband David, a school principal in Ashkelon, was not with the family at the time and is left on his own.

President Moshe Katsav attended the funeral.

Two soldiers and an Israeli civilian were also wounded in the attack and were evacuated to Soroka Hospital in Be'er Sheba.

"This can simply be labelled a massacre of innocent children," government spokesman Avi Pazner said. "Arafat and Hamas will spare us no horror in trying to stop the political process from going forward," Pazner told AFP.

The IDF said that both of the gunmen, who arrived at the area by car, were killed in an ensuing firefight.

The Hamas, the Islamic Jihad and Popular Resistance Committees claimed joint responsibility for the attack, saying it was to avenge the assassinations of Hamas leaders Sheikh Yassin and Rantisi. The 'Resistance Committees' is a group associated with PA Chairman Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement. There has been no statement from the Palestinian Authority regarding the attack.

The two Palestinians who carried out the attack were identified as Ibrahim Hamad and Faisal Abu Naqirah both from Rafiah.

Police said the white Citroen station wagon, carrying the family, spun off the road after the initial shooting, then the attackers approached the vehicle and shot the occupants at close range.

The car was riddled with bullets, and the carpet inside was stained with blood. Israel Radio reported the mother had been on her way to protest against Sharon's Gaza withdrawal plan. On the car was a bumper sticker saying, "Uprooting the settlements, victory for terror."

The terrorists arrived by car from the nearby Palestinian village of Dir al Ballah and began to fire at passing Israeli vehicles, consequently killing the mother and her four children. Another Israeli traveling in the opposite direction, was also wounded.

An IDF force arrived at the scene and charged the gunmen, killing them. During the gun battle two soldiers were moderately and lightly wounded, and an explosion took place but it was still unclear whether it was caused by a grenade or by a bomb.

The two soldiers wounded during the gun battle and were airlifted to Soroka hospital in Be'er Sheva together with the Israeli civilian.

The army said it had received a terror alert about 20 minutes before the attack, and had bolstered its forces in the area, Isarel Radio reported.

OC Southern Command Maj.Gen. Dan Harel told reporters that the shooting was the first attack in which civilians who use the Kissufim Road were hurt in the past 18 months and noted that just days ago several hundred meters away a terrorist driving in a car rigged with 300 kilograms of explosives blew up near IDF soldiers wounding three.

"We'll have to do more to give an answer to the terror attacks," he said.

Speaking to reporters at the Kissufim crossing, Harel said soldiers manning positions on the side of the road shot the terrorists hitting one on the south side of the road and the second on the north side. The company commander with extra forces reached the site and shot and killed them. "We will investigate the incident and draw the necessary conclusions and I hope that it will be the last time Israeli civilians and soldiers are harmed," he said.

The terror groups said the attack was in response to Israel's recent assassinations of the founder of the Hamas, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, and his successor, Abdel Aziz Rantisi.

"The attack is part of the Palestinian reprisals for the daily crimes committed by the Israeli army against the Palestinian people, especially the killings of Yassin and Rantisi," the group said.

A CNN crew driving in a bullet-proof vehicle stopped on the road and tried to prevent other cars from proceeding into the gunmen's line of fire.

Following the attack, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz canceled his participation in the groundbreaking ceremony of the Center of Human Dignity Museum of Tolerance, sponsored by the Simon Wiesenthal Center, in Jerusalem Sunday.

Settler leaders said that the attack proves that Likud members must vote against the disengagement plan in order not to give a prize to terrorists.

"People have to look us in the eyes and not throw us out of our houses," Avner Shimoni, a Gaza settler leader, told Army Radio. "We paid a very heavy price today."

Cabinet minister Gideon Ezra said it underscored the hopeless burden of staying in Gaza. "Our soldiers can't be in every car that moves in the Gaza Strip," he said.

"Thousands of soldiers are required to protect" the settlers, he said. "I would put our soldiers in other places."

Meanwhile Sunday, the Likud referendum on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's unilateral disengagement plan opened at 8 AM with polls to close at 10 PM. Final results will be announced at 2AM Monday.

443 polls have been set up for the 193, 000 card-carrying Likud members who are eligible to vote. Roughly 1, 300 security guards and police will secure the proceedings throughout the country. 176 lawyers have been tasked with overseeing the vote's legality.


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Hey, like the Saudi guy said yesterday, its all the fault of the Zionists!

On a separate (less sarcastic) note, its interesting to see the difference in bumper-sticker descriptions between the Jerusalem Post and Reuters (or CNN). One of the other sources reported that one of the bumper stickers said something like "we are never leaving".

ETA: according to Reuters, the quote is "From Here, We Will Not Move".

The intentional murder of civilians, particularly children, is barbaric. But some of the adult settlers need beatings as much as the average American public-housing resident. At some level, the settlements and the defense thereof simply cost Israel too much.

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The intentional murder of civilians, particularly children, is barbaric. But some of the adult settlers need beatings as much as the average American public-housing resident. At some level, the settlements and the defense thereof simply cost Israel too much.

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Old 05-02-2004, 06:52 PM   #3293
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These guys hardly sound like neutral observers, or good partners. That's what we need, a bunch of ragged guys in headscarves and/or balaclavas racing through the streets in pickup trucks flipping off the Americans and keeping "order."

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I think the US has just "blinked." This is being described as Bush finally standing up to the idealogues (e.g., wolfowitz) and siding with the pragmatists (e.g., scowcroft camp). Either way, I worry about the message this sends to the Arab world, as well as the effect if will have on the future of Iraq.

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Old 05-02-2004, 08:59 PM   #3294
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Wow. Peter's found the photos and has placed them on his site. Geez, no wonder why the entire Arab world is going ballistic.

What were these idiots thinking? White trash or something more sinister?

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What were these idiots thinking? White trash or something more sinister?
I'm thinking that I'm still waiting for the Dow to hit 6,000.

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Old 05-02-2004, 10:23 PM   #3297
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How much does a cow cost?

So this Hamill guy sold his cows and took a job with Halliburton's sub in order to cover debts and his wife's heart surgery. While I'm sure lots of good-hearted Americans will make sure his debts and his wife's heart surgery are covered, I'd like to buy him a cow.

That is, assuming it doesn't cost as much as a new car. So, how much for that heffer in the window, mister? I wanna send it to a guy who was willing to do anything to take care of business. Who's with me? Let's get Hamill his cows back!

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Old 05-02-2004, 11:06 PM   #3298
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I agree, we should have raped and pillaged.
From the video footage and media reports we've seen, I'm confident that hundreds of middle eastern families are missing one or more males, 18-45 yoa, as the result of the recent fighting. I'm still looking for the video of the marine sniper swiveling left and right for several minutes, taking shots every 15 or so seconds on camera.

Hopefully the marines will goad the boasters back, by saying that these were the guys hiding in the barn while the real fighters were all getting killed fighting the marines. I'd call them sissies for living and ask that they provide evidence that they actually took a shot at the marine units. Otherwise, the marines should publicly state that the celebrators are the armchair generals.

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I think the US has just "blinked."
Not so sure. What we did seems to be, we ran up against a resistant cell, and then denied them the battle they wanted (after they communicated their willingness to burn Fallujah down with all remaining residents in one big fight.) We kept up the night raids, avoided forming a big pocket of people (which would be a natural target for bombs, attacks, etc.), never gave them a focus, and now the area will be taken over by Iraqi patrols. I predict that, in two months, this is going to be a nice, peaceable town, working hard to get rid of terrorists and building a life.

If this was a blink, it was a blink taken for reasons of not destroying a town to save it, and I can't see a problem with that, especially since I do think they've hit on the way to save it.
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What's wrong with http://www.davidicke.com/ ?
ummm, for starters its not based upon logical arguments and it lacks a sound understanding of the facts, plus Mr. Ickes would not recognize an Aztec dancer if one stepped on his foot.
 
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