Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Let me get the lies straight.

The gist that I'm hearing from the SBVFT is this: Kerry tried to run away to France, of all places. When that didn't work out he volunteered for one of those luxury divisions of the military (i.e. the US Navy) to go to Vietnam (hey, it was a French colony once, there's another connection...), volunteered for a "cushy' job in a swift boat. When that gig turned out to be a real bummer, he did everything he could to get the fuck out, while also looking like a hero, so he could lord it all over eveyone thirty years later when he ran for President. He blew up his own ass, conned the rest of his crew into going along with him in his efforts to amass medals (the new guy, as part of the crew hazing ritual, was even went so far as to fall off the boat to give cred to the Lt.'s heroism; they agreed afterwards to stay apart for 30-something years so as to not arouse suspicion of the grand plan) when guns were going off in the area so it could be argued that everything he did was under fire. He showed up to the infirmary for every mosquito bite and paper cut, just in case someone noticed the bleeding and gave him a medal. And, hey, the Navy, stupid fucks that they are, (oops, we're not saying that....) ate it all up and went along with it and gave him all the medals so he could go home to his cushy protesting gig back home. Unfortunately, everyone in South East Asia happened to see all of this, and they kept meticulous notes of his whereabouts while in Vietnam at all times, so they could alert the Navy that the medals were erroneously given under false pretenses. Of course, they couldn't file that report until they managed to raise funds (from a very generous Texan who builds crappy, ugly houses), and their method of filing the report was by airing advertisements and publishing a book. Hopefully the Navy will catch wind of this and do the right thing and take back his medals.

ETA: I just hope that the Navy opens a huge ass investigation on this, because there are some people down here in Texas who go so far as to lord their Purple Hearts on their license plates, and I wouldn't want to open up a lane for some bastard who was just looking to get out from under heavy fire.

you're smarter than this. none of Kerry's lies would have been exposed if he hadn't made the point "I'm a war hero, vote for me, I'm better at military crap than w." given the hippie anti-war crap its double stupid to think he could have pulled it off, but other than his pushing it like it means something, he would have not caught any shit.

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you're smarter than this. none of Kerry's lies would have been exposed if he hadn't made the point "I'm a war hero, vote for me, I'm better at military crap than w." given the hippie anti-war crap its double stupid to think he could have pulled it off, but other than his pushing it like it means something, he would have not caught any shit.

That, plus some truly extraordinary feats of episodic recall.

Especially Schachte's account. The detail was unbelievable.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus
I invented this

Cave paintings were derivative.

Originally posted by Atticus
Mind you, I'm not sad to see the sacred cow of a candidate's military service slaughtered, as I didn't serve,

I invented this.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
That, plus some truly extraordinary feats of episodic recall.

Especially Schachte's account. The detail was unbelievable.

RT is smarter than her post. your post is smarter than you. Ying-Yan

[Jean Socteau]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Let me get the lies straight.

The gist that I'm hearing from the SBVFT is this: Kerry tried to run away to France, of all places. When that didn't work out he volunteered for one of those luxury divisions of the military (i.e. the US Navy) to go to Vietnam (hey, it was a French colony once, there's another connection...), volunteered for a "cushy' job in a swift boat. When that gig turned out to be a real bummer, he did everything he could to get the fuck out, while also looking like a hero, so he could lord it all over eveyone thirty years later when he ran for President. He blew up his own ass, conned the rest of his crew into going along with him in his efforts to amass medals (the new guy, as part of the crew hazing ritual, was even went so far as to fall off the boat to give cred to the Lt.'s heroism; they agreed afterwards to stay apart for 30-something years so as to not arouse suspicion of the grand plan) when guns were going off in the area so it could be argued that everything he did was under fire. He showed up to the infirmary for every mosquito bite and paper cut, just in case someone noticed the bleeding and gave him a medal. And, hey, the Navy, stupid fucks that they are, (oops, we're not saying that....) ate it all up and went along with it and gave him all the medals so he could go home to his cushy protesting gig back home. Unfortunately, everyone in South East Asia happened to see all of this, and they kept meticulous notes of his whereabouts while in Vietnam at all times, so they could alert the Navy that the medals were erroneously given under false pretenses. Of course, they couldn't file that report until they managed to raise funds (from a very generous Texan who builds crappy, ugly houses), and their method of filing the report was by airing advertisements and publishing a book.

Man seeks to escape himself in myth, and does so by any means at his disposal. Drugs, alcohol, or lies. Unable to withdraw into himself, he disguises himself. Lies and inaccuracy give him a few moments of comfort.

-- Jean Socteau

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
RT is smarter than her post. your post is smarter than you. Ying-Yan

I'll count that as another win, then.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Jean Socteau
Man seeks to escape himself in myth, and does so by any means at his disposal. Drugs, alcohol, or lies. Unable to withdraw into himself, he disguises himself. Lies and inaccuracy give him a few moments of comfort.

-- Jean Socteau

I have over 4100 posts. i regret 3. 1 was an extension of Slave's A few Good Men quotes. i took one and posted it. in retrospect I Shouldn't have- this was slave's mine. Then last weekend i did 2 Cocteau quotes. again wrong. AG owns the of cocteau's work. once I started on it, it ruins his ability to go. I promise- if anyon did a gilligan post, I would hold off transfering all the lost bets funds until that person was banned. Anyway, i just wanted to tell you, in retrospect i was wrong to take the cocteau thing from AG for 2 posts. Can you extrapolate?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you're smarter than this. none of Kerry's lies would have been exposed if he hadn't made the point "I'm a war hero, vote for me, I'm better at military crap than w." given the hippie anti-war crap its double stupid to think he could have pulled it off, but other than his pushing it like it means something, he would have not caught any shit.

Frankly, I think they should have just gone after him for the hippie anti-war crap. It goes nicely with the "flip-flop" theme the R-s are so keen on, there are no pesky records out there that can disprove the allegations, and for a hell of a lot of Vets, it's a legitimate beef. And hey, Strong Military Leaders of the Free World don't get stoned and sing Kumbaya at peace rallies. (Bush was wise enough not to be photographed before he turned 40 years old. Seriously, aside from the pic on the plane and a few from Yale, has anyone ever seen a picure of W under the age of 40?) A whole bunch of very pissed off vets about Kerry's turning on them and joining the peace movement would have been a lot harder to disprove and the anger would have felt more legitimate.

(Disclosure: Both my parents protested Vietnam. Drafted dad was a member of the Medical Committee on Human Rights while in the army and manned first aid stations during protests. I think he was in uniform. I suspect his FBI file is interesting.)

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I have over 4100 posts. i regret 3. 1 was an extension of Slave's A few Good Men quotes. i took one and posted it. in retrospect I Shouldn't have- this was slave's mine. Then last weekend i did 2 Cocteau quotes. again wrong. AG owns the of cocteau's work. once I started on it, it ruins his ability to go. I promise- if anyon did a gilligan post, I would hold off transfering all the lost bets funds until that person was banned. Anyway, i just wanted to tell you, in retrospect i was wrong to take the cocteau thing from AG for 2 posts. Can you extrapolate?

Strong dissent. The Greatest Cocteau Quotation Post of All Time was not mine. It shames me to say it, but it's true.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Strong dissent. The Greatest Cocteau Quotation Post of All Time was not mine. It shames me to say it, but it's true.

Quick question. Back in HS, when one of your friends was telling a b-list cheerleader that you really weren't weird and she should maybe give you a chance, did you often pop into the convo and explain how often your skin broke out?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Rather, let's say instead there is an atheist branch that directs its supernatural beliefs and ecstatic fervor toward non-deities.

Quiet. Cheney's about to speak.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
Quiet. Cheney's about to speak.

PM me if you need help translating from Reptilian to English.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I think we've pretty well established how far even the principled Republicans will go in defense of this Administration. Deficits? Irrelevant. Interventionism? Mandatory. Protectionism? Negotiable. Torture? Justifiable. Constitution? Amendable. Voluntary military service? Opportunism.

You misunderstand the target of my (our?) affections.

There are many issues on which I side with the Democrats. Many. These days, almost most.

But there's a sacred cow in the barn that I cannot avoid.

If you read the Podhoretz essay, 'nuff said.

[bilmore]

I've never really heard Zell Miller speak before.

He's quite an ass-kicker.

[Skeks in the city]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Is Kerry a shameless self-promoter? Yes. Garry Trudeau said so. 'Nuff said. So? Bush is a shameless self-promoter. Remember, he thinks he did more for human rights than Lincoln.

The truth about Kerry's medals is nothing. What is horrible is his testimony before Congress. I listened to the whole thing on the radio. It might as well be an advertisement to vote for Bush. I can't imagine what drove Kerry to testify like that.