Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Let me get the lies straight.

I'm not sure where I come down on the substance of this stuff. That wasn't our point. At least, that wasn't mine.

Tyring to defend Kerry here by somehow claiming that inquiry cheapens the meaning is backwards. Guaranteeing no inquiry is what will cheapen it.

[Skeks in the city]

Originally posted by bilmore
I'm not sure where I come down on the substance of this stuff. That wasn't our point. At least, that wasn't mine.

Tyring to defend Kerry here by somehow claiming that inquiry cheapens the meaning is backwards. Guaranteeing no inquiry is what will cheapen it.

Something to brighen your day: the wsj has an editorial explaining how Kerry is proposing to raise taxes on the middle class by raising employment taxes.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Skeks in the city
Something to brighen your day: the wsj has an editorial explaining how Kerry is proposing to raise taxes on the middle class by raising employment taxes.

Given that I still think he's gonna win, that's not quite the day-brightener you might imagine.

[SlaveNoMore]

Skeks in the city
The truth about Kerry's medals is nothing. What is horrible is his testimony before Congress. I listened to the whole thing on the radio. It might as well be an advertisement to vote for Bush. I can't imagine what drove Kerry to testify like that.

the VRWC blogs are reporting that Kerry's THREE secret meetings to meet with the Vietcong - not including the on the record one in Paris - are about to be laid bare in public.

Buh-bye Senator "Spitball"

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
the VRWC blogs are reporting that Kerry's THREE secret meetings to meet with the Vietcong - not including the on the record one in Paris - are about to be laid bare in public.

Buh-bye Senator "Spitball"

So he was attempting diplomacy? Might not be such a bad idea in these times. btw, who was W meeting with at the time? His bartender or his coke dealer?

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
So he was attempting diplomacy? Might not be such a bad idea in these times. btw, who was W meeting with at the time? His bartender or his coke dealer?

I believe in 1971:

1) Our President was nobly completing his fourth year of service in the Texas Air National Guard

2) Senator Kerry was giving succor and support to our enemy in war time by declaring himself and everyone else in the armed services as a war criminal*

While we're at it, let's go to 1972. Since Kerry's camp cannot defend even tself against the Swifties, it appears they have nothing better than to rehash all of the already-answered questions regarding the President's 5th year of Guard service in Alabama. As usual, Tyrone Marshall is leading the charge.


* If true, why would any anti-war Democrat want to vote for a self-avowed war criminal?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I believe in 1971:

1) Our President was nobly completing his fourth year of service in the Texas Air National Guard

2) Senator Kerry was giving succor and support to our enemy in war time by declaring himself and everyone else in the armed services as a war criminal*

While we're at it, let's go to 1972. Since Kerry's camp cannot defend even tself against the Swifties, it appears they have nothing better than to rehash all of the already-answered questions regarding the President's 5th year of Guard service in Alabama. As usual, Tyrone Marshall is leading the charge.


* If true, why would any anti-war Democrat want to vote for a self-avowed war criminal?

Link to the full article about W"s service on the Blount campaign here. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...son/index.html

from the article:

Allison's account corroborates a Washington Post investigation in February that found no credible witnesses to the service in the Alabama National Guard that Bush maintains he performed, despite a lack of documentary evidence. Asked if she'd ever seen Bush in a uniform, Allison said: "Good lord, no. I had no idea that the National Guard was involved in his life in any way." Allison also confirmed previously published accounts that Bush often showed up in the Blount campaign offices around noon, boasting about how much alcohol he had consumed the night before. (Bush has admitted that he was a heavy drinker in those years, but he has refused to say whether he also used drugs).

"After about a month I asked Jimmy what was Georgie's job, because I couldn't figure it out. I never saw him do anything. He told me it basically consisted of him contacting people who were impressed by his name and asking for contributions and support," Allison said.

C. Murphy Archibald, a nephew of Red Blount by marriage and a Vietnam veteran who volunteered on the campaign from September 1972 until election night, corroborated Allison's recollections, though he doesn't recall that the Bush name carried much cachét in Alabama at the time. "I say that because the scuttlebutt on the campaign was that Allison was very sharp and might actually be able to pull off this difficult race" against the incumbent Democrat, Sen. John Sparkman, Archibald said. "But then no one understood why he brought this young guy from Texas along. It was like, 'Who was this guy who comes in late and leaves early? And why would Jimmy Allison, who was so impressive, bring him on?'"

Bush, who had a paid slot as Allison's deputy in a campaign staffed largely by volunteers, sat in a little office next to Allison's, said Archibald, a workers compensation lawyer in Charlotte, N.C. Indeed, when Bush was actually there, he did make phone calls to county chairmen. But he neglected his other duty: the mundane but important task of mailing out campaign materials to the county campaign chairs. Archibald took up the slack, at Allison's request. "Jimmy didn't say anything about George. He just said, 'These materials are not getting out. It's causing the candidate problems. Will you take it over?'"

And far be it from VRWC blogs to take liberties with the truth. Hell, I don't even trust anything I hear on Fox News.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Link to the full article about W"s service on the Blount campaign here. http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...son/index.html

More:

The break happened not long after a boozy election-night wake for Blount, who lost his Senate bid to the incumbent Democrat, John Sparkman. Leaving the election-night "celebration," Allison remembers encountering George W. Bush in the parking lot, urinating on a car, and hearing later about how he'd yelled obscenities at police officers that night. Bush left a house he'd rented in Montgomery trashed -- the furniture broken, walls damaged and a chandelier destroyed, the Birmingham News reported in February. "He was just a rich kid who had no respect for other people's possessions," Mary Smith, a member of the family who rented the house, told the newspaper, adding that a bill sent to Bush for repairs was never paid. And a month later, in December, during a visit to his parents' home in Washington, Bush drunkenly challenged his father to go "mano a mano," as has often been reported.

Around the same time, for the 1972 Christmas holiday, the Allisons met up with the Bushes on vacation in Hobe Sound, Fla. Tension was still evident between Bush and his parents. Linda was a passenger in a car driven by Barbara Bush as they headed to lunch at the local beach club. Bush, who was 26 years old, got on a bicycle and rode in front of the car in a slow, serpentine manner, forcing his mother to crawl along. "He rode so slowly that he kept having to put his foot down to get his balance, and he kept in a weaving pattern so we couldn't get past," Allison recalled. "He was obviously furious with his mother about something, and she was furious at him, too."


So we've got Arnold, the Terminator, and W, the Bladiator.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
So he was attempting diplomacy? Might not be such a bad idea in these times. btw, who was W meeting with at the time? His bartender or his coke dealer?

My money is on his coke dealer.

Never trust a baby boomer who didn't at least try coke. Mmmmmm coke.

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
More:

The break happened not long after a boozy election-night wake for Blount, who lost his Senate bid to the incumbent Democrat, John Sparkman. Leaving the election-night "celebration," Allison remembers encountering George W. Bush in the parking lot, urinating on a car, and hearing later about how he'd yelled obscenities at police officers that night. Bush left a house he'd rented in Montgomery trashed -- the furniture broken, walls damaged and a chandelier destroyed, the Birmingham News reported in February. "He was just a rich kid who had no respect for other people's possessions," Mary Smith, a member of the family who rented the house, told the newspaper, adding that a bill sent to Bush for repairs was never paid. And a month later, in December, during a visit to his parents' home in Washington, Bush drunkenly challenged his father to go "mano a mano," as has often been reported.

Around the same time, for the 1972 Christmas holiday, the Allisons met up with the Bushes on vacation in Hobe Sound, Fla. Tension was still evident between Bush and his parents. Linda was a passenger in a car driven by Barbara Bush as they headed to lunch at the local beach club. Bush, who was 26 years old, got on a bicycle and rode in front of the car in a slow, serpentine manner, forcing his mother to crawl along. "He rode so slowly that he kept having to put his foot down to get his balance, and he kept in a weaving pattern so we couldn't get past," Allison recalled. "He was obviously furious with his mother about something, and she was furious at him, too."


So we've got Arnold, the Terminator, and W, the Bladiator.

Kudos. This is all fine, well and creative and all.

But why did you leave out the part about the poppers, the Peter Allen cassette, and the glory hole?

[Skeks in the city]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Kudos. This is all fine, well and creative and all.

But why did you leave out the part about the poppers, the Peter Allen cassette, and the glory hole?

Shifty's discussing W's relationship with his parents, not Shifty's relationship with you.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
So he was attempting diplomacy? Might not be such a bad idea in these times. btw, who was W meeting with at the time? His bartender or his coke dealer?

This is now my new favorite post ever. Sorry Atticus, you had to know it would happen eventually. I bet SS could craft a dynamite surrender note.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
So we've got Arnold, the Terminator, and W, the Bladiator.

So, it was probably a smart decision to not base his entire appeal on a few months of military service, eh?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by bilmore
You misunderstand the target of my (our?) affections.

There are many issues on which I side with the Democrats. Many. These days, almost most.

But there's a sacred cow in the barn that I cannot avoid.

Fuck. All I asked for in 2000 was a moderate republican. And this what I got. It's a sacred cow to me too, but SHIT, it's difficult to swallow when W bows to the neo-nazis and wingnuts.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I thought Jon was going to offer to blow Gillespie last week. Now he's put a quarter page ad in the op/ed section New York Times, begging the President to come on his show:

Via http://www.dailykos.com

That's one of the funniest things I've seen in weeks.