Fashion Board 5-7-04 to 6-9-04

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Poll: What's the most recockulous thing you've ever heard was successfully* expensed or charged by a GA to a BIGLAW firm?

Tales of tittybar visits are appreciated, but not because they're unusual.

*If the attempt to submit the expense was unsuccessful in a funny way, feel free to share that, too.

GP category: partner included receipts for home furniture along with receipts for office furniture in attempt to get reimbursement for all. Unsuccessful. Canned. Pretty stupid gamble.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by bilmore
Firm GA's were at a rooftop bar/bocce court for a "meeting". One GA drinks too much, barfs over the edge of the roof. Barf hits passing well-dressed pedestrian. Firm paid for drycleaning.

I dinged a SA for being stupid with expense account stuff- Firm has policy of mentor (yes I was one- anyone need help?) and SO take SA and SO to very nice meal near end of summer so they can see what their lives will be like is only they join up to the Biglaw tit.

So I order a very fine bottle of wine, and Poindexter and his mouse let the guy pour them a glass, then DO NOT TOUCH 1 FUCKING DROP. oh my god, they don't drink- ever hear of hand over glass- no thank you. I had to order an extra bottle because of the wasteful little shit. I believe he had poor judgement, plus who wants to work with a never-hungover guy? I said no offer*.

(*there were other reasons, but wasting the wine did bug me.)

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Poll: What's the most recockulous thing you've ever heard was successfully* expensed or charged by a GA to a BIGLAW firm?

Tales of tittybar visits are appreciated, but not because they're unusual.

Trips to the Million Dollar Saloon were common when I summered in Dallas. Sometimes if the associates were too exhausted from entertaining us and working, a group of SAs only would go. We never had a problem getting it expensed. Frankly, it seemed to be expected.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by bilmore
I will forever be doomed to watch every RW work that ever comes out, desperately hoping, maybe in vain, that he someday returns to that stage of his performance where he was the absolute best.

'Cuz he was, for a while, one of the best.

You'd better hope he revitalizes his coke habit. I went to IMBD.com and viewed the list of the movies he's made. Here is a (LONG) list of the worst. Holy shit are these movies bad:

Insomnia
Death to Smoochy
Bicentennial Man (did this movie really happen?)
Patch Adams (the ultimate TUIMM)
Flubber (are you fucking kidding me?)
Jack (just painful - how the fuck did I sit through this?)
Jumanji
Too Wong Foo
Mrs. Doubtfire

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
GP entry:

Since he was a sole proprieter of the tinyLAW practice by the end (his partners all left for greener, less psychotic fields) of the run, I guess it doesn't really count to anyone but the IRS, but a former boss of mine expensed, billed time to and otherwise funded his campaign for membership into the Bohemian Club with firm time, resources and support staff. I think it was justified as "business development."

Bohemian Club? Should I even bother to google it, or am I going to run afoul of IT Nazis?

[Mr. Man]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Trips to the Million Dollar Saloon were common when I summered in Dallas. Sometimes if the associates were too exhausted from entertaining us and working, a group of SAs only would go. We never had a problem getting it expensed. Frankly, it seemed to be expected.

Hey now, wasn't there some sort of NDA associated with that sort of thing? How do the expense categories work in light of the "free" lunch buffet?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Mr. Man
Hey now, wasn't there some sort of NDA associated with that sort of thing? How do the expense categories work in light of the "free" lunch buffet?

"Valet."

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mr. Man
Hey now, wasn't there some sort of NDA associated with that sort of thing? How do the expense categories work in light of the "free" lunch buffet?

Such uptight, partner-esque questions there. The correct questions are "so are we on for next time you are in Dallas, buddy?" and "were the recruiting bimbos actually ever on stage?"

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Poll: What's the most recockulous thing you've ever heard was successfully* expensed or charged by a GA to a BIGLAW firm?

Tales of tittybar visits are appreciated, but not because they're unusual.

During my tenure with a previous firm, I remember having lunch with a partner who wove in to his War Story of the Day rather matter-of-fact references to titty bar visits as Client Development.

Now this guy was a banking lawyer, and is probably 50 or so. I'm in IP, and somewhat younger. Whether it's a generational thing or just a practice area thing*, I dunno, but I just don't run into this kind of thing as typical client entertainment.

Other than the rather obvious example of Sidd, do y'all see titty bar visits as a normal client development device?

Gattigap

* Working with tech companies, more productive client development moves typically involve cases of Red Bull or samples of the newest, fanciest motherboard. Naked chicks don't usually attract their attention unless they're at COMDEX and the chick is wearing a costume of, say, a motherboard.

[Alex_de_Large]

Originally posted by Gattigap
During my tenure with a previous firm, I remember having lunch with a partner who wove in to his War Story of the Day rather matter-of-fact references to titty bar visits as Client Development.

Now this guy was a banking lawyer, and is probably 50 or so. I'm in IP, and somewhat younger. Whether it's a generational thing or just a practice area thing*, I dunno, but I just don't run into this kind of thing as typical client entertainment.

Other than the rather obvious example of Sidd, do y'all see titty bar visits as a normal client development device?

There is a partner at my present firm who uses the titty bar as almost his exclusive means of client entertainment; that and golf, I guess. Then again, this is the same guy who watches streaming porn in his office with the door open and his (female) secretary sitting right outside, so maybe he doesn't think anything of it.

[Mr. Man]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Such uptight, partner-esque questions there. The correct questions are "so are we on for next time you are in Dallas, buddy?" and "were the recruiting bimbos actually ever on stage?"

Sorry about that. I was actually looking for helpful hints as opposed to being uptight...

Also, I would have asked to tag along next time in Dallas if it was the Men's Club, but Million Dollar Saloon? Please.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Bohemian Club? Should I even bother to google it, or am I going to run afoul of IT Nazis?

You shouldn't have trouble with the google search. It's a male only private club based out of Northern California for the rich and powerful. They gather in July to a camp in Sonoma County and folic in the woods for two weeks. It's generally assumed that major policy decisions are made during those two weeks, though I think that it's a pretty non-partisan group. They like anyone with power and money, doesn't really matter which side of the political spectrum they fall on.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
Bohemian Club? Should I even bother to google it, or am I going to run afoul of IT Nazis?

It's an ultra-exclusive, GOP-heavy all-male club that does annual Encampments in the redwoods, where they can perform musical sketches and other homoerotic activities in absolute privacy. You know, like a fraternity, only with Don Rumsfeld as pledgemaster.

Needless to say, you need to be tapped. It's not something you can apply for.

Atticus '98

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mr. Man
Sorry about that. I was actually looking for helpful hints as opposed to being uptight...

Also, I would have asked to tag along next time in Dallas if it was the Men's Club, but Million Dollar Saloon? Please.

Please edit my prior post to insert "but let's go to the Men's Club, not Million Dollar Saloon -- it's way better." between the end of the first question and the quote mark immediately thereafter.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Alex_de_Large
There is a partner at my present firm who uses the titty bar as almost his exclusive means of client entertainment; that and golf, I guess. Then again, this is the same guy who watches streaming porn in his office with the door open and his (female) secretary sitting right outside, so maybe he doesn't think anything of it.

I got dragged along on one ill-conceived attempt to entertain a corporate client by a GP who kept reading that that's how real lawyers entertain clients. Effing disaster.

Client was obviously not comfortable from the start. Then, one of the women recognized me - turns out I had represented her on a soliciting charge a few years earlier, when I was doing much different kinds of work. After she was done, she came out and sat next to me and we talked for about 45 minutes about stuff. She showed me pics of her kids, who I had met back when, and we talked about her plans, etc.

Turns out nothing turns guys off to watching strippers faster than finding out they're real people. Thankfully, GP didn't try that again.