Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by ilikenewsocks
I missed the Green Party convention. Does anyone happen to know -- can you supply red meat for the party faithful when you're a vegan, or is that taboo?

-- Ralphie Boy

Apparently you can't offer milk and bologna, cheese or peanut butter sandwiches to protesters who've been arrested in NYC, or they will complain they want soy... according to local news reports today. Get the ACLU, stat!

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I hope the choir enjoys the sermon. From drudge:

FOXNEWS BEATS BROADCAST NETWORKS FOR TUESDAY NIGHT COVERAGE OF CONVENTION -- HISTORIC UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS FOR CABLE

10-11PM

FOXNEWS -- 5.2 MILLION
NBC -- 5.1 MILLION
CBS -- 4.4 MILLION
ABC -- 4.3 MILLION
MSNBC -- 1.6 MILLION
CNN -- 1.5 MILLION


http://drudgereport.com/

I think that says as much about Americans' perceptions of the other networks' news operations as it does about Fox...

[SlaveNoMore]

taxwonk
That's one of the funniest things I've seen in weeks.

The you clearly didn't see Zell Miller challenge Chris Matthews to a duel after he cut him off from speaking

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The you clearly didn't see Zell Miller challenge Chris Matthews to a duel after he cut him off from speaking

Anybody not rooting for Zell on that one? JC Watts said he wanted the soda and popcorn concession for that matchup...

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I hope the choir enjoys the sermon.

I think the only valid point being made is, the size of the respective choirs.

[SlaveNoMore]

My personal feeling on this matter (shared by several of my buddies in the NYPD and NYFD) is that these idiots would complain an awful lot less if they were beaten first with a nightstick

• NEW YORK (AP) To the protesters, it's Guantanamo on the Hudson. Police prefer the acronym PASS, though no one gets one.
  
  Either way, the dilapidated, hulking pier on the Hudson River in Manhattan has become a landmark of sorts in the clash between activists and authorities at the Republican National Convention.
  
  Some protesters have complained bitterly about conditions at the temporary holding area set up by police at Pier 57 in Chelsea for processing convention-related arrests. One former detainee, Andrew Lynn, claimed he was held there for hours on end in "Guantanamo-style pens" — a reference to the U.S. military facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
  
  Police officials insist their Post Arrest Screening Site allows them to safely and promptly process mass arrests and avoid overwhelming neighborhood stationhouses.
  
  Commissioner Raymond Kelly has dismissed complaints about conditions, including questions about asbestos. Testing done Monday night found no problems with air quality, he said.
  
  "There have been some exaggerated claims and outright falsehoods," Kelly said.
  
  NYPD officials declined a second request to allow an AP reporter to tour the site Wednesday, saying officers were too busy processing the nearly 1,000 people arrested the day before.
  
  Among them was an AP photo messenger, who was taken in along with a group of protesters when police broke up a demonstration that she and a colleague were covering.
  
  Jeanette Warner was there for several hours. She said conditions were far from inhumane, although the facility was dirty and the experience was exhausting.
  
  "It was like a warehouse, it was the best they could do," Warner said. "You didn't want to sit on the floor, that's for sure."
  
  Detainee JoAnn Wypijewski, a 48-year-old freelance magazine writer, said officers manning the makeshift lockup were polite.
  
  "You get the feeling that they're being held prisoner too," she said. "It's not a great working environment in there."
  
  Sitting less than 20 blocks south of Madison Square Garden and extending hundreds of feet into the Hudson, Pier 57 once was used as a terminal for cruise ships. In the 1950s, a three-story, concrete garage for city buses was erected.
  
  The garage, which closed last year, was recently taken over by the NYPD. The department says it cleaned up a section of the interior and built a series of chain-link holding pens in preparation for the convention.
  
  Officers search and interview the detainees at the pier before busing them to a booking facility in lower Manhattan, where they are either given tickets and released or held for a court appearance.
  
  While they wait, they are offered milk and sandwiches — bologna, cheese or peanut butter — and each detainee is handed a small paper cup which they can fill with water from coolers inside the pens, Warner said. They are also allowed to access portable restrooms alongside the pens.
  
  While she was there Tuesday night, some chanted "This is what a police state looks like," and one woman was put back in handcuffs after she started rattling the chain-link fence and jumped against it. For the most part, however, detainees got along well with the officers posted there, Warner said.
  
  Many of those arrested are veterans of other demonstrations where "few got arrested and most got away after breaking the law," Kelly said. "Here, they are being surprised by the fact that the opposite holds true: Most of the lawbreakers will be apprehended and only the law-abiding will get away."
  
  At a news conference Tuesday outside the holding facility, Lynn, civil rights lawyer Norman Siegel and transportation union officials raised concerns about possible asbestos contamination there, and complained that people were being held too long.
  
  Jay Bermudez, a former shop steward at the bus depot, said, "We've always had a problem here with safety issues." He claimed a fire in 1994 released asbestos into the air.
  
  Lynn, who described himself as an independent videographer, said he was arrested last week at a bike ride protest and held at Pier 57 for 18 hours. (Police say protesters typically wait about 90 minutes before being transferred.)
  
  The protesters, Lynn added, were held 40 to a pen and forced to sleep on floors covered with motor oil. (Police say they could sit on benches.)
  
  Conditions were "absolutely disgusting," Lynn said.

You know what fuck wad? This isn't a hotel. Don't get arrested.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Well, some of us are. There is still a basic mental competency requirement, after all.

A real simple logic chain from this flows to G. W. Bush is smarter than Taxwonk. Try and diagram?

[SlaveNoMore]

Rassmussen has Bush now up 49-45. Highest lead in a half a year:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Pres...cking_Poll.htm

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The you clearly didn't see Zell Miller challenge Chris Matthews to a duel after he cut him off from speaking

That guy is a fucking raging redneck lunatic. He's your (our?) Dean.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Rassmussen has Bush now up 49-45. Highest lead in a half a year:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Pres...cking_Poll.htm

Where's the bounce? I thought the convention was going to give him a 10 to 15% bounce.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The you clearly didn't see Zell Miller challenge Chris Matthews to a duel after he cut him off from speaking

Any time I get the urge to listen to Chris Matthews, I relieve it by reading some of Hank's posts.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Where's the bounce? I thought the convention was going to give him a 10 to 15% bounce.

We predicted a 300 to 1000% bounce. This is nothing. Puny little bounce. Bush bounces higher when they take the training wheels off his mountain bike.

[SlaveNoMore]

Shape Shifter
Where's the bounce? I thought the convention was going to give him a 10 to 15% bounce.

No, you are confusing this with the 15% Kerry gets from positive spin in the liberal media.

the RNC expected little to no bounce, since the supposedly undecided sector is so slim

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
A real simple logic chain from this flows to G. W. Bush is smarter than Taxwonk. Try and diagram?

I never said he was non compes mentis, Hank.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Where's the bounce? I thought the convention was going to give him a 10 to 15% bounce.

The "bounce" usually begins, if at all, within 24-48 hours after the candidate's speech, once the main media has had a chance to line up its stories and tell the uninformed what to think.

I predict Miller gives a five-point bounce all on his own. All of the focus-group reaction to him last night seems to have been very positive, especially among those who are labeled "swing voters".