The New And Improved Fashion Board

[NotFromHere]

Jessica Biel's trunk.



Better or worse than J-Ho?

[Shape Shifter]

My earlier song parody is a parody. This parody in no way reflects any private communications received by me, directly or indirectly, via PM, IM, email, or other means. This parody is based solely off information readily available to the public, should the public really care to makd that effort. Any similarities between the fictional ppnyc portrayed in this parody and the real fictional ppnyc are purely coincidental.

Furthermore:

• This transmission is confidential and intended solely for the person or organization to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information. This transmission may make mention of the affair Steven C. Hill, director of sales, is having most nights and especially when business travel occurs. This transmission may also lament the feeling of dying that pervades this small and sensibly decorated workspace, while days tick by on computer calendars and the sun only briefly and barely brushes the edges of the windows in the conference room. This transmission may go on to say that, for the last year, this job hasn't felt right: cheerful on the surface, but faceless and cold. Our bosses are Germanic almost, a sadly administrative and glum gaggle of malcontents. This transmission aches to be substantial. To be the work of art the sender knows is inside him or her. Alas, it is a transmission of information so benign that enough of it stacked up could crush any gift of talent or hope. There is, my friend, a bitter little catch to the comfort we've achieved by chaining ourselves to these desks, by tying our wallets to this slow drip feed. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy, distribute, or take any action. That said, keep in mind that there are no coincidences; you have received this, so let's just take it from there. Freud would argue you're absolutely my intended recipient, right? The long-dead coked-up thinker stuck on Mom would say that no matter how unlikely it was that you received this e-mail and read this signature, it was, in fact, no accident. This is not where I thought I'd be at this age, in this job, in this place. My manager is a walking dead man. We're all dying here. This is not what we started out dreaming of. And, outside, the day doesn't stop its inevitable fade to consider our decision to leave or stay. Parents miles from here don't stand still like this place; they continue to age. Drunk on the pleasant hum of routine, I've stayed too long. I always stay too long in things: relationships, jobs. I am short of daring. Steve's affair, which I mentioned earlier, is at least daring, though he clearly remains unhappy. It's sad to see him take care to cover his tracks, thinking he's fooling everyone, when, in reality, he's only fooling himself.
  
  I sit here hidden away knowing that sex won't fix me. Drinks won't do a thing. I'm haunted by this idea that one day even the daydreams that get me out of here will stop working. I need catalysts: scars and failing, trying and falling, living and risking, making the wrong move for love, starting down a long road actually headed toward something, facing the blank page, noticing some kind of detail besides changes in my skin and face. I need to get going, to admit life's urgency. We all do here. We never talk about it, and this transmission is confidential. And if you believe you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender.

[dtb]

Originally posted by NotFromHere

Eddie Murphy does not believe that Scary Spice's baby is his.

Ahhh! That's what the "entertainment" segment on 1010 Wins was talking about. I was in a taxi late last night, and heard something about a spice girl being pregnant, and something about someone questioning whether he was the father because they were no longer together. They also mentioned that the guy questioning paternity has 5 kids from his recently ended marriage.

I'm so glad that mystery is solved.

[dtb]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Couldn't agree more. But some would argue that shunning a woman who has a fantastic personality, is cool as hell and fucks like a dirty little tramp who can't get enough, just because she is is fat and ugly isn't fine either.

TM

Whew. For a second there, I thought I was going to have to ask you to edit your post.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by dtb
Ahhh! That's what the "entertainment" segment on 1010 Wins was talking about. I was in a taxi late last night, and heard something about a spice girl being pregnant, and something about someone questioning whether he was the father because they were no longer together. They also mentioned that the guy questioning paternity has 5 kids from his recently ended marriage.

I'm so glad that mystery is solved.

I'd question too if I was into Trannies which Eddie is.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by nononono
Hmmm, let's see, if we're forcing choices here, and if I had to choose between fucking someone so they'd put a roof over my head and having the means to do it myself, I'm pretty sure I'd choose the latter. Which would then lead to my having the ability to select my sex partner (increasing the odds both of love and of great sex) rather than to be beholden to the highest bidder.

You missed my point, which was who really gives a shit about things like "public respect". Most people who live for public respect are screwed up royally, whether it's ball players or politicians.

Yeh, it's nice to not have to worry about the roof over your head, and whether someone avoids those worries by slaving away in an office or on their back doesn't mean a hill of beans, but if the question is where is the real power in the world, I wouldn't go bowing down to those folks with "public respect", regardles of whether they are boys or girls.

[nononono]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Then don't be if that's possible. STFU and contribute a fucking dollar.

Why don't you come work here, where political contributions of $1000 are expected.

And how's the pay?

We didn't even get to political contributions, by the way. Much is encouraged here as well.

You know, pony, when I'm having to make some serious concessions for my children's christmas experience, not to mention regular church and charity contributions, plus the holiday amp-up, not to mention worrying about my fucking mortgage, I'm not feeling like a partner in my firm needs 3 separate "hope you feel better" gifts funded by that partner's co-workers and reports.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Looks and smells like gold-diggery to me.

Which apparently looks and smells better than poo. (spree: Cary Tennis column about how to deal with morbidly obese father-in-law sleeping in living room and smelling like poo all the time.)

[Borat]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Jessica Biel's trunk.

Wa-wa-wee-wa! Borat like watche her go toilet!

Borat like picture but no like people talk about stripper like philosopher.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by dtb
Do you honestly think that people are their bodies/physical self? Do you think that what someone does is not inherent in his or her personality?

Furthermore, what someone does for a living or what they find entertaining or enjoyable is a reflection of their personality and what he or she finds worthwhile and important in life. Isn't it a lot harder to separate someone's interests/profession (which are, for the most part, selected by the person) from his personality than it is to separate someone's body or appearance (which, for the most part, are not selected by the person) from his personality.

Be that as it may, aren't all fat people jolly?

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by nononono
And how's the pay?

We didn't even get to political contributions, by the way. Much is encouraged here as well.

You know, pony, when I'm having to make some serious concessions for my children's christmas experience, not to mention regular church and charity contributions, plus the holiday amp-up, not to mention worrying about my fucking mortgage, I'm not feeling like a partner in my firm needs 3 separate "hope you feel better" gifts funded by that partner's co-workers and reports.

I'm jumping off here, but---I'm staff and if I am friendly with the person wedding, baby shower, birthday leaving the firm [which I think is bs, you are ostensibly leaving for a better gig] I always give not a ton depending on person....one time, my manager had some unforseen circumstances I gave what I felt was a lot. It's annoying and it adds up but to me it is goodwill. I also buy a TON OF FUNDRAISERS AT 15 AND 12 BUCKS A POP..and those that think cheesecake should be 20 are cwazy. even I draw the line.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by nononono
And how's the pay?

We didn't even get to political contributions, by the way. Much is encouraged here as well.

You know, pony, when I'm having to make some serious concessions for my children's christmas experience, not to mention regular church and charity contributions, plus the holiday amp-up, not to mention worrying about my fucking mortgage, I'm not feeling like a partner in my firm needs 3 separate "hope you feel better" gifts funded by that partner's co-workers and reports.

Collections for partners? That doesn't happen here. Also, no collecting from staff for associates or anybody else. It all goes downhill, to compensate for the shit that flows in the same direction.

What I dislike is the official collection -- the one that goes around by email and comes from a committee or a group assigned to do the collecting, usually newbies who don't know anybody but have to pressure everyone to open their wallets for tchotchkes everyone will discard. It's too bad they don't give gift cards rather than unwanted crap.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
You missed my point, which was who really gives a shit about things like "public respect". Most people who live for public respect are screwed up royally, whether it's ball players or politicians.

Yeh, it's nice to not have to worry about the roof over your head, and whether someone avoids those worries by slaving away in an office or on their back doesn't mean a hill of beans, but if the question is where is the real power in the world, I wouldn't go bowing down to those folks with "public respect", regardles of whether they are boys or girls.

Oh for the fucking love of christ, you are not making this into some bullshit political thing, are you? Because power in the sense that I am understanding it (which is not Sebby's "all about fucking" way) in this conversation basically boils down to having control over what happens in your own world -- which frequently is connected to money and/or charisma. People whose opinions and wants are routinely disregarded at work and at home and in life in general have no power. They could probably get that power through charisma and/or money. People who are catered to, who have a lot of other people in their lives figuring out what the person wants and making it happen, or doing the bidding of the person to cause the person's wishes to be "made so," have power.

Maybe female beauty corresponds to charisma and is therefore a source of power? Somehow, as I think Sebby has now acknowledged, this doesn't seem like it has that much widespread effect, or if it does for the truly beautiful, there are so few truly beautiful women that those few who do have a lot of other people eager to please them that it doesn't make a dent in the general power level of women.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by dtb
Do you honestly think that people are their bodies/physical self? Do you think that what someone does is not inherent in his or her personality?

Furthermore, what someone does for a living or what they find entertaining or enjoyable is a reflection of their personality and what he or she finds worthwhile and important in life. Isn't it a lot harder to separate someone's interests/profession (which are, for the most part, selected by the person) from his personality than it is to separate someone's body or appearance (which, for the most part, are not selected by the person) from his personality.

I agree with you on interests, not work. 5% of us do what we love.

I am no more natively a lawyer than I would be a blacksmith or yoga instructor. I did it for money. Sadly, pathetically, before I went off the market, the silly professional title was a fairly solid way to meet women. That's the sort of "creature comfort shopping" I loath. My wife was an aimless grad student when I met her. Her desires... her ambition, her drive - none of that meant shit to me. I actually wanted her to avoid going into a professional program. I liked her fine with nothing. But you're right - we certainly shared interests. We liked having a good time and we liked talking to each other and found each other attractive. I couldn't care less if she were a street urchin, and she never asked about what I did or what I made. You might even say the reason we married was because she was the first girl who didn't give a damn... Of course, oddly, now, she's spent everything I have.

But now I'm projecting personal experience onto a more global issue...

And as I explained earlier, "looks" involve more than just the immediate physical attributes. They're an important part of a larger presentation, including how you carry yourself and how you carry on a casual conversation. You can't divorce them from the equation, and you can't say they're less important than interests. Those two things are pretty close to equal (all things changing in importance in a relationship from week to week).

Sorry, I can't give a simple answer.

[nononono]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
You missed my point, which was who really gives a shit about things like "public respect". Most people who live for public respect are screwed up royally, whether it's ball players or politicians.

Yeh, it's nice to not have to worry about the roof over your head, and whether someone avoids those worries by slaving away in an office or on their back doesn't mean a hill of beans, but if the question is where is the real power in the world, I wouldn't go bowing down to those folks with "public respect", regardles of whether they are boys or girls.

We are talking about power - leverage, ability to make things happen. Sure, you can do that by fucking for a place to live, but having the means and ability not to have do so provides far more power - both personal and in the world. In the real world, "public respect" (which I respectfully point out was but one in my hasty list of public "power" things) can mean you get "power." If I, as an attorney, am respected in my community (by which I mean at the moment, business community), I get business. If I am respected in my community as a citizen, then when I speak to the city council, people are more likely to listen.

Don't grab one of several in a list and make the whole point about it, and don't take the comment to an extreme just to make a point. I am not talking about people obsessed with public opinion. We are talking about whether women have power, what kind of power they have, and whether bedroom power is really more powerful than power in the wider world.My statement simply was that, whatever power I* may have as a woman to make a man want to fuck me, it doesn't - generally speaking - provide true empowerment in and of itself.



* The general "I."