A Friendly Correction for those Man-Haters who Delve to be Single

[Not Bob]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

You're open the Friday after Xmas? My gawd, you can't make her come in just to get fired. Do it this Monday. Paid through 12/31.

Um, Icky, you didn't hire Chinaski's daughter, did you?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

We are open and it is a payday. Trying to avoid firing someone before xmas.

On the second day of Christmas, my employer gave to me: two weeks of sever-ance pay!

On the first day of Christmas, my employer gave to me: lots of credit card debt to pay!

Icky, it is far better to let them know their situation before Christmas. Yes, you're playing scrooge in this drama either way. But canning them the day after Christmas, that is, on the second day of Christmas, perhaps right after they tell their co-workers of the lovely gift they got for their spouse since they're finally working, is much nastier than personing up and telling them now.

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Agreed. Underneath that crusty exterior, you're a Not Bad dude. Kind of like a LT version of Donald Brashear.

Thanks, old bean.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Not Bob

Um, Icky, you didn't hire Chinaski's daughter, did you?

Does she know how to open Word? If yes, then no it isn't her.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

On the second day of Christmas, my employer gave to me: two weeks of sever-ance pay!

On the first day of Christmas, my employer gave to me: lots of credit card debt to pay!

Icky, it is far better to let them know their situation before Christmas. Yes, you're playing scrooge in this drama either way. But canning them the day after Christmas, that is, on the second day of Christmas, perhaps right after they tell their co-workers of the lovely gift they got for their spouse since they're finally working, is much nastier than personing up and telling them now.

Thanks, really.

Not wanting to be scoogey is why I didn't can em before Thanksgiving.

[Hank Chinaski]

Flying tonight from LaGuardia. I have 2 smallish suitcases and a briefcase. I have an upgrade and brought all 3 carry on to come here. Got some gifts so the bags are jammed. 1 in particular is so stuffed I was pretty sure it would break open. Got my tix, head to security, which is empty. But the TSA told me I have the privilege of being given pre-check. That meant I had to walk to the other end of the concourse to get the more streamline security. I have never signed for it, but randomly get it. I don't think it helps me because the advantages are you don't need to take out/off certain things and I always forget what. But I'm told keep shoes coat on. Then I get to the scanner and the woman snaps that I have to take it all off. I would like to opt out of ever being pre-check again.

Get through the scanner, and the guy has pulled my overstuffed bag for bag check. He keeps calling for someone to come do it but all the people are milling around. Finally someone comes. She points to what she thinks might be a bottle of fluid. It's not. It's a candle. Then she does the routine rub to sniff for explosives and the machine gives me a hit.

And that meant she had to individually rub every item in the bag and test it. Finally she got through everything and confirmed the first hit was false. Then I had the pleasure of trying to jam all of that stuff back in.

THEN at the gate I made a joke to the gate agent that several people heard, (she said, "anyone have any questions?" I said "how do airplanes work?") and in retrospect I think it pissed her off. As I was boarding, behind a woman with 4 bags, the agent told me FAA regulations prohibit me from having 3 carry ons. I told her I brought them all carry on. I told her the TSA pretty much inspected this whole bit and didn't bring up any 3 bag problem. No matter, I had to check 1 after going through all of that. I know it's not even a 1st world problem, it's a spoiled baby problem, but it is still a problem for me.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Flying tonight from LaGuardia. I have 2 smallish suitcases and a briefcase. I have an upgrade and brought all 3 carry on to come here. Got some gifts so the bags are jammed. 1 in particular is so stuffed I was pretty sure it would break open. Got my tix, head to security, which is empty. But the TSA told me I have the privilege of being given pre-check. That meant I had to walk to the other end of the concourse to get the more streamline security. I have never signed for it, but randomly get it. I don't think it helps me because the advantages are you don't need to take out/off certain things and I always forget what. But I'm told keep shoes coat on. Then I get to the scanner and the woman snaps that I have to take it all off. I would like to opt out of ever being pre-check again.

Get through the scanner, and the guy has pulled my overstuffed bag for bag check. He keeps calling for someone to come do it but all the people are milling around. Finally someone comes. She points to what she thinks might be a bottle of fluid. It's not. It's a candle. Then she does the routine rub to sniff for explosives and the machine gives me a hit.

And that meant she had to individually rub every item in the bag and test it. Finally she got through everything and confirmed the first hit was false. Then I had the pleasure of trying to jam all of that stuff back in.

THEN at the gate I made a joke to the gate agent that several people heard, (she said, "anyone have any questions?" I said "how do airplanes work?") and in retrospect I think it pissed her off. As I was boarding, behind a woman with 4 bags, the agent told me FAA regulations prohibit me from having 3 carry ons. I told her I brought them all carry on. I told her the TSA pretty much inspected this whole bit and didn't bring up any 3 bag problem. No matter, I had to check 1 after going through all of that. I know it's not even a 1st world problem, it's a spoiled baby problem, but it is still a problem for me.

If you travel a lot, TSA pre is indispensable. Keep your shoes and jacket on and don't have to take your liquids or laptop out. Mostly, the line is much, much shorter.

I don't understand the mega carryon deal. I have another lawyer I used to work with that would travel for 3 days and bring a full suitcase, a full carryon and a briefcase.

I toured the country when I was younger with one pair of pants and two pair of underwear.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

If you travel a lot, TSA pre is indispensable. Keep your shoes and jacket on and don't have to take your liquids or laptop out. Mostly, the line is much, much shorter.

I don't understand the mega carryon deal. I have another lawyer I used to work with that would travel for 3 days and bring a full suitcase, a full carryon and a briefcase.

I toured the country when I was younger with one pair of pants and two pair of underwear.

2 pair of running shoes, and as several FBs can tell you, I wear size 13.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

2 pair of running shoes, and as several FBs can tell you, I wear size 13.

Yes and you gave me the great tip of traveling with your crappiest pair then tossing them. But now I just have these which take up as much space as a tie:

[taxwonk]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

2 pair of running shoes, and as several FBs can tell you, I wear size 13.

It's not traveling light if the shoes each occupy a full bag.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I know you are open. I also know every staff member and associate thinks it is fucked up you are. If em drags em's ass into the city that day, when em's entire family has the day off and is wanting to go somewhere, only to have you Fire em, em's going to be pissed off.

Who the fuck is CLOSED the day after Christmas?

I fully expect 90% of our employees to be out on PTO, but we're open too.

eta: You're a dickhead for trying to get on an airplane with 3 carry ons. Seriously. A dickhead. Everyone who isn't a complete amateur at air travel knows the limit is one carry on bag and one personal item (such as a computer bag or handbag). You aren't special. The rules aren't different for you.

Oh, and put that personal item under the seat in front of you, not in the overhead bin. There are approximately 300 other people on that plane who also would like to store their carry on luggage.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen

eta: You're a dickhead for trying to get on an airplane with 3 carry ons. Seriously. A dickhead.

we had a flood. my normal carry on luggage was ruined. I had two smaller bags that together are smaller than my old carry on. getting everyone shit on the plane isn't about numbers. it's about volume. I'm like Douglas on LA Law, I can follow rules, but they have to make sense to me. there were plenty people using a big backpack as a second bag. if I had done that, and taken up WAY more room it would have been fine.

but I admitted the whole last half of the rant was me being spoiled.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by bold_n_brazen

Who the fuck is CLOSED the day after Christmas?

I fully expect 90% of our employees to be out on PTO, but we're open too.

Every major company shuts down for the entire week between Christmas and New Year. Most service companies I know are open the day after a major holiday UNLESS it is on Thursday. Making people work (or use a day off) on the Friday after the 4th of July or Christmas is pretty pointless. No one who comes in does anything but bitch about having to be there. Now put in the context of a person who has to schlep into Manhattan that day, just to get fired.

[ferrets_bueller]

TSA Precheck is well worth the time and money. The TSA has been giving away unsolicited precheck tickets to convince people of the value. I think your experience was tainted by the fact that, by your own admission, your bags looked like they were packed by preschoolers.

Finally, the TSA people don't enforce the one carryon/one personal item rule; that is the airline's job. I think you just ran into a harmonic convergence of traveler's tough luck. And your joke got you dinged by the cabin crew.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by ferrets_bueller

TSA Precheck is well worth the time and money. The TSA has been giving away unsolicited precheck tickets to convince people of the value. I think your experience was tainted by the fact that, by your own admission, your bags looked like they were packed by preschoolers.

In Detroit I usually use the "secret" security line where there is little distance (or travelers) being the ticket check and the xray machine people. The ticket guy will yell back, "got a precheck." So it is helpful there.

But last night the ticket guy was a long way away from the scanner (also true in most security lines everywhere). We had a pre-check line to the ticket guy, but then we got mixed into the others. Downstream of the ticket guy no one knew I was pre check until the woman who sniffed my bag got the false hit, and decided to check my ticket.

where is the value?

Finally, the TSA people don't enforce the one carryon/one personal item rule; that is the airline's job. I think you just ran into a harmonic convergence of traveler's tough luck. And your joke got you dinged by the cabin crew.

I know, i know, my rant was at 30,000 feet and 2 drinks in.