Where the Kids Come to Mouth Off

[dtb]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
2.

On the other hand, using the word "pussy" to describe the coffee-spilling case is, well, ick. The woman was like 80.

Kind of like imagining a woman with size triple-I boobs getting a breast reduction when she's elderly.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by dtb
Kind of like imagining a woman with size triple-I boobs getting a breast reduction when she's elderly.

My 84 year old grandmother has been musing this latley.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I have been known, from time to time, to suck cock, but I don't find it offensive.

I don't find this offensive either. At all. Replacing "from time to time" with "frequently" makes it even less offensive.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by dtb
Or as Chris Rock puts it, when skewering those who point out how articulate Colin Powell is, "That's an educated man! What did you think he was going to sound like? 'I's gonna drop me some BOMBS!'" (replete with Rock's shit-eating grin, that bit is priceless.)

Perhaps this should be on politics, but why is Chris Rock suggesting that Powell might talk like Rumsfeld, complete with Rumseld's shit-eating grin?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by dtb
Not infrequently. (Not every day, mind you, but more often than you'd think.)

Many people don't know I'm Jewish (I don't have a Jewish-sounding last name), so I guess they feel free to express their true selves. I'm more often than not embarrassed. For them.

Except the time when the taxi driver (in NYC), when searching for the perfect epithet to hurl at the pedestrian crossing the street (who had the light), came up with "JEW!" -- that kind of scared/unnerved me.

Not that this would have made it any better -- but it wasn't like the guy in the crosswalk was a Hasid or something (i.e., he wasn't noticeably Jewish -- he may or may not have been).

Like I said, that freaked me out.

What I find amusing is that because I'm Irish looking and have a strongly Celtic name, people assume I'm a wonderful sounding board for bigoted jokes. If you think "Jew lawyer" or "lazy Nigger" is the worst, you haven't been hearing "the new style" in slurs lately. I have heard people crack jokes about lynchings and the Holocaust. I just smile and let it roll because (a) the debate isn't worth it, and (b) I usually don't want to be in the conversation, so that last thing I want to do is get the amateur comedian to start a profuse apology. I actually heard one chick at a pretty high end holiday soiree refer to chuildren she was teaching in an inner city school as "monkeys." I almost spit my drink. I cringed, waiting for her to get a full frontal onslaught from the rest of the group, but all that came up was one drink guy with a great "monkeys, really?" which was probably the best comeback. The remainder of the conversation was awkward dead air where everyone stared at their drinks. Thank God for alcohol.

The best I ever saw was some rube tell a racist joke to an Irish rugby-player friend of mine who was about 6/4 230lbs. The big Irish dude luaghed really loud and then stopped, took a swig on his beer and said "My sister is black and I love beating the shit out of little guys."* That redneck didn't try to gouge anything.

* Which is true.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by mmm3587
Your attempts to always paint me as disagreeable are really old and transparent.

He doesn't paint you as disagreeable, nor do you paint yourself that way. You paint yourself as inconsistent and lacking a nuanced understanding of the very topics about what you write. And write. And write. Thurgreed just points that out in a disagreeable way.

Every person should be able to understand how prejudice makes others feel and is inappropriate; every person who has experienced the disgusting extreme of that prejudice should especially feel that sort of empathy.

Just as every person should be able to understand how sexual assault makes a woman feel; every person who has a close relationship with someone who has experienced the disgusting violation of the self that such an assault represents should have sufficient empathy to see that whether or not the rapist counts in a woman's "number" is not "judgment call" (even if you don't think the number itself has any moral significance).

You can bet that I would respond in the most effective way (to the extent appropriate in a professional setting or unlikely to cause a brawl) to get people to actually reconsider their beliefs, actions or statements. I think it's also sad and pathetic that you're more concerned about pointing a finger and trying to be better than everyone else than actually trying to address a problem. But it's doesn't surprise me.

I'd take that bet, but not in your favor. You don't even have the guts to say the right thing to a girl with whom you have an intimate relationship. You are a hedging, bullet-dodging, simpering associate wimp as well as a fool.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
RP arguing for TM

Why don't you just fuck TM already?

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Why don't you just fuck TM already?

Already?

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Why don't you just fuck TM already?

So that you can move up in line?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
So that you can move up in line?

Well...yeah.

Duh.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Chambers is being discontinued entirely and rolled into Williams-Sonoma Home. Shame, I think, I liked that catalog, though I could never bring myself to believe I could afford anything but the soaps. [Some of the soaps apparently made the cut at WS home.] WS home appears to be continuing the "hilariously overpriced" tradition that Chambers perfected.

Originally posted by ltl/fb
WTF happened to Chambers, the bedding (and bedroom furniture) division of Williams-Sonoma? There was a bed called like Soho or something that I think Gwinky might have liked. Asian-y. WSHome does not have the same furniture, but the Santa Monica or Westport on pages 26-27 of http://www.wshome.com/catalog/index.asp?nv=nav_ecatalog might work

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I'd take that bet, but not in your favor. You don't even have the guts to say the right thing to a girl with whom you have an intimate relationship. You are a hedging, bullet-dodging, simpering associate wimp as well as a fool.

Oh, that's bullshit and you know it. What's the right thing to say in that situation? It sure as hell isn't universal. How do you know how every woman in that situation wants someone to respond? It's not my place to tell someone how she should think about that. It doesn't matter what I think. And it doesn't matter what you think about her situation either. It matters what she thinks.

And, apparently, what she thinks is that she would, if compiling a precise number, count it. She thinks that allowing her rape to be a debilitating, continuously destructive experience other than just an unconsensual, violent sex act which she has dealt with and moved on from is the wrong way to approach it. The whole "rape only has the significance you give it" approach. She doesn't blame herself for what happened and she doesn't want to feel like a victim when she thinks about it, so she's moved on. I almost feel like she considers it some weird one-night stand.

I don't know if that's a pyschologically appropriate or healthy way to think about it, but that's not my call. It seems to work well for her and it's been a major subject of her therapy. So, fuck off, and let people have their own opinions about things and the ways they think of them. Your moral certainty is disgusting.

eta Which is different than the way I described her decision in my last post about it, but it was a misstatement...

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
You are a hedging, bullet-dodging, simpering associate wimp as well as a fool.

Goodness. I leave for a little while and come back to a knife-fight.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by dtb
Uh.. YEahhhh (I am going for the valley-girl, eye-rolling tone here). Why do you think I can't afford to give more to charity? Because I'm giving it all to the MAN because tax loopholes don't exist for working stiffs like me!

This is offensive.

Why is it always the "MAN"?

But take heart, I understand from fringie and Wonk that the new tax bill is rife with pork for just about everyone! Maybe it's your turn at the trough!

[mmm3587]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Why don't you just fuck TM already?

If they're not the same person...