Where the Kids Come to Mouth Off

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by mmm3587
Your moral certainty is disgusting.

I think it is sexy.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by mmm3587
Oh, that's bullshit and you know it. What's the right thing to say in that situation? It sure as hell isn't universal. How do you know how every woman in that situation wants someone to respond? It's not my place to tell someone how she should think about that. It doesn't matter what I think. And it doesn't matter what you think about her situation either. It matters what she thinks.

[*** blah blah blah, irrelevant point that makes mmmm sound like sensitive guy***]

So, fuck off, and let people have their own opinions about things and the ways they think of them. Your moral certainty is disgusting.

Moral certainty? Where do you get that? Nothing I said in my post was an expression of moral certainty. I merely criticized YOU for dodging a bullet and crowing about it. The judgment I made had nothing to do with your girlfriend, it was about your level of empathy - weren't you just lamenting the lack of empathy among people you would expect to possess it?

And yes, there is a "right" thing to say - by which I mean an empathetic thing: something like, "to the extent the number means anything I think it only applies to consensual experiences."

By the way, if it didn't matter what you thought, why the hell do you think she asked you?

Your perceiving my attack on YOU as a judgment about how healthy or effective your girlfriend's manner of dealing with what happened to her is another example of the lack of nuanced understanding for which I criticized you earlier.

And fuck off for trying to turn this into an argument about rape or suggesting that I was judging anybody but you or anything but your own actions, as described by you.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Moral certainty? Where do you get that? Nothing I said in my post was an expression of moral certainty. I merely criticized YOU for dodging a bullet and crowing about it. The judgment I made had nothing to do with your girlfriend, it was about your level of empathy - weren't you just lamenting the lack of empathy among people you would expect to possess it?

And yes, there is a "right" thing to say - by which I mean an empathetic thing: something like, "to the extent the number means anything I think it only applies to consensual experiences."

By the way, if it didn't matter what you thought, why the hell do you think she asked you?

Your perceiving my attack on YOU as a judgment about how healthy or effective your girlfriend's manner of dealing with what happened to her is another example of the lack of nuanced understanding for which I criticized you earlier.

And fuck off for trying to turn this into an argument about rape or suggesting that I was judging anybody but you or anything but your own actions, as described by you.

Sexy!

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
[to RP's slam of mmm] Sexy!

It depends. RP, are you wearing "FM" boots?

[SlaveNoMore]

Pretty Little Flower
I think it is sexy.

Cocksucker!!!!!

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Cocksucker!!!!!

Cuntlicker.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by mmm3587
Your attempts to always paint me as disagreeable are really old and transparent. Condescending prick, pot, kettle. I wouldn't care to see you in action or be around you. You seem like a petty, pathetic malfeasor who is just trying to stir things up and can't understand why no one likes him or wants to be around him. I hope that the identity you have crafted on the FB makes you happy, fulfills you and does something to mask the apparent emptiness in your real life.

Your attempt to paint me as some kind of bitter, hateful person with no friends is comical. Take a poll of the people who have actually met me from this board and come back and tell me all about how mean I am and how sad and pathetic my life is. Or don't. Doesn't really matter. You can't take the heat so you try to get personal and are reaching for straws that aren't there. If you want to get personal, it's more effective if you're actually accurate.

Originally posted by mmm3587
It doesn't make it ok or better or justified to hear some rich, white protestant spout vitriol against blacks or jews, but it's easier to see how prejudices develop in people who haven't felt the results of those kinds of beliefs. If you are Joe Wasp from Omaha, you might not have ever had a group of black kids or Jews point at you and laugh at you and spout all manner of disgusting slurs. Joe Wasp might even never have felt any prejudice at all, at least not on the level of being hated merely for his skin color.

However, it's my impression that most, if not all, for example, blacks and Jews have felt some of that kind of treatment sometime in their lives. And I do find that lack of empathy for others experiencing prejudice sad. Every person should be able to understand how prejudice makes others feel and is inappropriate; every person who has experienced the disgusting extreme of that prejudice should especially feel that sort of empathy.

Look. People are people. And people are flawed. Being a victim of racism should ideally give someone an experience to remember, in that they should know how it feels and avoid using it on others. Unfortunately, it is quite common for someone who has been shit upon to turn around and do it to the next guy. (Think about kids who have been abused and how often they abuse their kids when they've grown up. Think about a middle child who beats up on his little brother in a way similar to how his older brother beat up on him. Think about idiot frat boys who think it is their right to haze the fuck out of someone because they had to go through it.) It's a common phenomenon. That doesn't mean it's not entirely inexcusable. But to hold that person to a harsher standard than anyone else who discriminates makes no sense.

Originally posted by mmm3587
Why should I give one minority a pass when that person uses, for example, a slur and a derisive adjective to describe another minority? Are you actually making the "minorities can't be racist" argument? Or are you just suggesting that it's inappropriate for me to point out to someone who has experienced prejudice that what he is doing is just as bad? Because that's stupid, too. Encouraging introspection is the most effective way to get people to change their beliefs.

No one said you should give anyone a pass. I found your tone more offensive than your intention. If someone is being racist or offensive, by all means, let 'em have it. I said you sound like a condescending prick because your approach amounts to telling someone "You, as a minority, should know better than to discriminate against others." Sounds condescending to me.

TM

[greatwhitenorthchick]

This is turning into an excellent old-fashioned Friday fight day.

But to change the tone entirely, I have a question and it is:

My friend's brother is hot. Should I fuck him?

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
This is turning into an excellent old-fashioned Friday fight day.

But to change the tone entirely, I have a question and it is:

My friend's brother is hot. Should I fuck him?

Yes.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
But would calling a gay man a cocksucker really be an insult? A gay man could say "Why yes, I happen to suck cock, what of it?" As to gay men, on its face, its nothing more than an exclamatory acknowledgement of the obvious.

I would assume that it is found offensive because of the user's intent, not its descriptive nature.

TM

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
My favorite is watching local sports guys throw out (Chappelle white stiff guy voice here) "Well, he's really a spectacular young man... so articulate."

Complete Nonsequitur point, but still.



"I'd say he's a mountain of a player, almost Zeus-like in his power! Wouldn't you, Lamar?"

"Uh, no, Jerry. I wouldn't say that."

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by TalkSock
Shortly after 9-11, all the Catholics in the office went to a special prayer at some big cathedral here in the city and took the whole afternoon off. 2 of us left in the office to "hold the fort down."

Well, that happens here every Friday at sundown so . . .

Christ, it was 911, live with it.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Why is this anon? If this board wants to encourage people to admit crap like they put sugar on their dick to get a dog to lick it when they were 12, or explain that they have BM's on cue, there needs to be a much higher bar for anon.

This post explains so much.

[Replaced_Texan]

I went to the Greek Festival last night, and I'm remarkably un-hungover. I think the six of us went through six or seven bottles of wine.

Anyhow, after the first bottle of wine was consumed by our group, I was forced to relate (again) that the Greek Festival was the very first place I ever got drunk. I was three. My dad, for reasons only known to him, loves Retsina, that Greek white resin wine that tastes like turpentine. My mom wisely hates it. Anyhow, we were at the festival and he'd bought a bottle of wine, and I kept on going from parent to parent asking for a sip. My mother happily obliged me. Unbeknownst to her, my dad was also feeding me wine. (I know now that he was trying to hook me on the paint thinner while I was young and didn't know any better, so he'd have a drinking companion in later years. It worked. I actually like the stuff. I take this to be a perversion on my part, and I think anyone else who likes it is crazy.) Predictably, I started slurring my speech and wobbling. My parents were horrified that they managed to get their three-year-old trashed. I was apparently very easy to put to bed that night.

Your first over-indulgence?

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
I once stood by in silent horror while a name partner referred to potential defendants as "cocksuckers" in a casual conversation with the firm's first openly gay associate.

Cocksucker, like motherfucker, is so commonly used so as not to be sexual-preference specific. If he wanted to denigrate gays, he would have said something like "choad smoker" or "fuckfag."