Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
If it had been under oath, for consistency's sake i would say we should impeach them.




As soon we decide on the appropriate consequences for Hillary's lies on the January 27, 1998, Today Show, we can apply the same consequences to McClellan.

Now you're using Bilmore's argument. Two wrongs do make a right.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Spanky
Did it ever occur to you that I wasn't bragging but merely stating a fact make a point.

You frame pictures of the forebears who BUY the politicians, not the bought, particularly if they're at the state level. Those miscreants are crowned by local businessmen and treated like toothless hookers by their owners.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Interesting. So fiscal conservative, socially liberal Rockefeller Republicans are extinct? Fuck. Thanks for the memo. You better send one to Slave also.

There is room for the fiscal conservatives Sebby, don't be a martyr.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Whether or not it is a tax on death is semantics. It is certainly communistic.

We established long ago that it is not a communist thing. It dates back to the compromise reached in enacting the Statute of Uses and the Statute of Wills, both firmly entrenched in Anglo-Saxon common law.

Although it is refreshing to hear you acknowledge that the whole death tax thing is a semantic ploy.

I argue for both the repeal of the estate tax and furthering lowering of the FIT and am not convinced that this cannot happen. In the alternative I will be passing on my second amendment rights insurance to my heirs.

Does it ever rain in your pretty world?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
There is room for the fiscal conservatives Sebby, don't be a martyr.

As long as you know that you're just along for the ride and that your Republican priorities are not being promoted. But hopefully gay marriage can be prevented, right? That'll stop congress from spending.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Just because 50 Cent uses "nigga" in his lyrics does not make it acceptable for you or Coltrane to be tossin it around casually.

That's just stupid.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sgtclub
and the one most appropriate for the audience.

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That audience could use a course or two in remedial logic.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
And I'm not sure, but the only people I've ever heard say directly that they work for the CIA are people who used to work for the CIA

Can't challenge your experience, but there are a not insignificant number of people who work at CIA who can say they do. For example, lawyers in the GC's office have told me what they do, at least in general terms (e.g., I work on south america issues or FOIA requests). So, the fact that someone works at CIA does not necessarily make them covert or clandestine, or even not public knowledge. Although Bilmore and I disagree whether Plame was in the known category (she at least could tell Wilson initially only because he had a security clearnance).

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Did it ever occur to you that I wasn't bragging but merely stating a fact make a point.

The Clintonesque politics of destruction knows no distinction.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
There is room for the fiscal conservatives Sebby, don't be a martyr.

??? I see a bunch of goddamned Democrats running the party. We're starting wars everywhere and blowing huge wads of dough to prime the givernment/indutsrial complex. This admin hasn't seen a program it doesn't like.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Spanky
Did it ever occur to you that I wasn't bragging but merely stating a fact make a point.

That your great grandfather was a state legislator is a fact. That he was bought and paid for by Weyerhauser is the sort of thing that most folks hope people either don't realize or politely forget.

[sgtclub]

• Can anyone seriously believe that not invading Iraq would have changed the mindset of this fanatic? Or leaving Afghanistan alone? What we're learning, especially from the home-grown bombings in London, is that our fundamental enemy is a medievalist theological fascism, buried in the recesses of a legitimate religious faith. It would be nice if we could talk these people out of it, or hand them concessions to buy them off, or hug them till they saw the joys of the New Age. Until then, we have to bring them to justice - on the battlefield or court-room. And the people who are most able to bring them to justice are Western Muslims; and the democratically-inclined Muslims in Iraq.

For those interested, reading the transcripts of the van gough trial is fucking chilling. Those people are FANATICAL.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
We established long ago that it is not a communist thing. It dates back to the compromise reached in enacting the Statute of Uses and the Statute of Wills, both firmly entrenched in Anglo-Saxon common law.

Those of us who respect personal initiative, capitalism and property rights have turned our backs on your anachronistic compromises. The Marxists appropriated your compromise, but now even their heirs have realized the evil of such a tax.

Originally posted by taxwonk


Although it is refreshing to hear you acknowledge that the whole death tax thing is a semantic ploy.

I don't need to call something satanic to realize and acknowledge its inherent evil.

Originally posted by taxwonk

Does it ever rain in your pretty world?

In an ownership society it is morning in America.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by sgtclub

• Can anyone seriously believe that not invading Iraq would have changed the mindset of this fanatic? Or leaving Afghanistan alone? What we're learning, especially from the home-grown bombings in London, is that our fundamental enemy is a medievalist theological fascism, buried in the recesses of a legitimate religious faith. It would be nice if we could talk these people out of it, or hand them concessions to buy them off, or hug them till they saw the joys of the New Age. Until then, we have to bring them to justice - on the battlefield or court-room. And the people who are most able to bring them to justice are Western Muslims; and the democratically-inclined Muslims in Iraq.

For those interested, reading the transcripts of the van gough trial is fucking chilling. Those people are FANATICAL.

On this, we are in complete agreement. The problem is, how do we root them out and kill them? One by one?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Your premise is, well, just wrong. Bush had 5-6 reasons for going to Iraq from the start. And he expressed them on numerous occassions pre-war. In fact, the NYT actually ran a story in which they chastised him for having so many reasons instead of just one. All of this happended before Powell went to the UN. The justification was paired down to WMD leading up to Powell's presentation because it was thought to be the strongest argument and the one most appropriate for the audience.

So with the exception of the flypaper rationale, he has been singing the same tune for 3 years now.

Exactly. He's never had a legitimate reason. His handlers forced him into one (he does nothing based on what the NYTimes says) and now he's backpeddling to the 5/6 agin. Why? Because no one would have supported him had he offered the 5/6 original reasons. Again, you're offering more evidence that he's been lying/manipulating all along.