All Hank, all the time.

[Adder]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You laugh. Just wait.

Well, at least you and the Islamofascits agree on something...

[SlaveNoMore]

Sidd Finch
Then why do you post, and apparently applaud, lengthy statements from the British press that appear intent on doing exactly that?

I posted those to show Ty that even a bunch of Brits seem to think that the "open letter" tended to support of the terrorists.

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Not to disagree with what you say, but another reason why so many moderate Muslims can't criticize their own is that they live under oppressive, undemocratic regimes, often supported by the United States, where they may be punished for criticizing their own. In countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, it's much safer to attack Israel or the West.

Unlike say, the oppressive regime of the city of San Francisco, where several hundred Muslims here marched this weekend on City Hall under the flying flags of Hezzbollah and the PLO.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Occupation of the region to impose peace, then a concentrated program of nation-building. By nation-building, I mean developing the economic and political infrastructure to support broad-based social and economic opportunity and and social infrastructure, to inculcate the values that support such opportunity.

And how do we occupy if we hadn't invaded?

[SlaveNoMore]

Adder
Well, at least you and the Islamofascits agree on something...

I want to weed them out of the country.

They want to cut off my head on television, among other lovely things.

A tad different, no?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I posted those to show Ty that even a bunch of Brits seem to think that the "open letter" tended to support of the terrorists.

I saw over the weekend that some Brits felt that way. If anyone other than a Muslim observed that the mess we've made of Iraq, and our siding with Israel over Lebanon, and our Middle East policy in general makes it more likely that young Arabs will want to bomb us, I think the observation would be non-controversial. The only difference when Muslims say it, as far as I can tell, is that we think their religious views may lead them to support terrorism, and so we think they ought to keep quiet, at the least.

If we are going to win this war, it's going to be by making common cause with Muslim moderates. To do that, it helps to listen to them.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Unlike say, the oppressive regime of the city of San Francisco, where several hundred Muslims here marched this weekend on City Hall under the flying flags of Hezzbollah and the PLO.

We need to get you out of that town. If you don't see the various stupid shit that happens in SF as cause for amusement instead of outrage, your tenure there will be unhappy indeed.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Not to disagree with what you say, but another reason why so many moderate Muslims can't criticize their own is that they live under oppressive, undemocratic regimes, often supported by the United States, where they may be punished for criticizing their own. In countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, it's much safer to attack Israel or the West.

That is a damn good point. We prop up SA, the fountain of a whole lotta this shit. I guess we're in this queer position where, if the despicable SA regime were to fall, an even more sinister form of Wahhabism would take its place, so we have to protect devil we know.

I blame GM. If we had electric cars, this'd all be moot.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Gattigap
We need to get you out of that town. If you don't see the various stupid shit that happens in SF as cause for amusement instead of outrage, your tenure there will be unhappy indeed.

2. My family that's lived there for 30 years describes this silliness as "local color."

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
....our siding with Israel over Lebanon...

1) You aren't on the anti-Israel platform, so stop parroting their lies. We sided with Israel over Hezzbollah, a terrorist group funded by Syria and Iran and operating out of southern Lebanon to the chagrin of the powerless-Lebanese government - not Lebanon.

2) This foiled airline plot was planned months before these recent events in Lebanon and Gaza, so I wish you and others would stop lumping it in as some precursor.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm at a loss to understand how Members of Parliament "can be perceived as leaders of . . . crazy Islamic men."

They weren't writing to imply thet knew more about how the terrorists' minds work than the rest of us? They didn't point to their positions in parliment to imply some position of leadership?

Why don't you go fuck yourself? I'm sick and tired of hearing that your political party has a fucking monopoly on this war against terrorism, as if the rest of us don't get it. Your song and dance is lame, and reflects a serious lack of anything serious to say.

When you have to take off your shoes to get into your kid's public school sporting events maybe you'll start to understand. the fact is that the profiling mentioned above is something that will happen within 10 years- and the fact is that the people protesting it will be your ilk.

[Adder]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I want to weed them out of the country.

They want to cut off my head on television, among other lovely things.

A tad different, no?

I thought you were implying future successful attacks and a broading conflict.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You laugh. Just wait.

Believe me, I'm not laughing.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I want to weed them out of the country.

They want to cut off my head on television, among other lovely things.

A tad different, no?

If they are alive and well in some other country you are fine with that? Strange.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

When you have to take off your shoes to get into your kid's public school sporting events maybe you'll start to understand. the fact is that the profiling mentioned above is something that will happen within 10 years- and the fact is that the people protesting it will be your ilk.

I have no seen anyone on these boards object to profiling for airport security.