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Old 07-23-2004, 06:44 PM   #346
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Tell me, all you conservative opponents of affirmative action, why is it that the Treasurer of the United States has to be a Hispanic woman?
Because it's more politically expedient than having the Democratic proponents of same crawling up your ass for not appointing more female hispanics?

(now looking at the roster of former treasurers, it is a remarkable run)
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:45 PM   #347
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Another left-wing conspiracy theory bites the dust. Tsk tsk.
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:46 PM   #348
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Tell me, all you conservative opponents of affirmative action, why is it that the Treasurer of the United States has to be a Hispanic woman?
From Romana Banuelos to Kathy Ortega to Rosario Marin the hispanic women of our nation have proven themselves to be the most qualified people for the job.

Now that she is retiring from touring, if only Gloria Estefan would see the way of the right, I'm sure she would make an excellent appointee.

What do you have against these hispanic senoras and senoritas Ty, their race or their gender?

You misogynistic racist fuck!
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:47 PM   #349
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Because it's more politically expedient than having the Democratic proponents of same crawling up your ass for not appointing more female hispanics?

(now looking at the roster of former treasurers, it is a remarkable run)
Who knew that the "this is a war and have to be prepared to use our enemies' tactics" line would work as well in appointing a Treasurer as it did with Abu Ghraib? Damn.
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:47 PM   #350
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Another left-wing conspiracy theory bites the dust. Tsk tsk.
OTOH, that reveals the durability of, say, Hillary theorists. Regardless of how things play out, this is one that just keeps givng and giving -- until Hillary's dead body is found in a park, of course.
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:48 PM   #351
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Who knew that the "this is a war and have to be prepared to use our enemies' tactics" line would work as well in appointing a Treasurer as it did with Abu Ghraib? Damn.
Are you saying the Dems appoint women of color for political expediency too, rather than merit? Damn.
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:50 PM   #352
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Are you saying the Dems appoint women of color for political expediency too, rather than merit? Damn.
In a representative democracy, merit appointees would defeat the "representative" aspect.

How much merit do you need to be Treasurer of the United States, anyway? How do you fuck that up --- writing someone else's name in the signature block and invalidating three trillion in currency?
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Old 07-23-2004, 06:51 PM   #353
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What do you have against these hispanic senoras and senoritas Ty, their race or their gender?
Nothing, you WASP-hating bigot. Thanks for the explanation. It will be delight to see her name on the crisp $1 bills I get for every box of documents I review.

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Are you saying the Dems appoint women of color for political expediency too, rather than merit? Damn.
Are you saying Al Qaida runs prisons where they put panties on Westerners' heads? That's cold. I thought they just beheaded people.
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Are you saying Al Qaida runs prisons where they put panties on Westerners' heads? That's cold. I thought they just beheaded people.
Seymore Hersh is saving that story for sweeps month.
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:23 PM   #356
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Even after death, the Kennedys can't catch a break.

USS John F. Kennedy collides with a small vessel.

Not sure whether to make a PT-109 joke, a Mary Jo Kopechne joke, or a "Dhow Sinks Below 10,000" joke.
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Old 07-23-2004, 09:27 PM   #357
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Even after death, the Kennedys can't catch a break.

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USS John F. Kennedy collides with a small vessel.

Not sure whether to make a PT-109 joke, a Mary Jo Kopechne joke, or a "Dhow Sinks Below 10,000" joke.
I believe -- and Hank can correct me on this if I'm wrong -- that that is the only aircraft carrier in the United States Navy ever to collide with a small vessel.
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Old 07-24-2004, 02:49 PM   #358
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Andrew Sullivan and Bill Clinton together make an interesting point that I haven't seen elsewhere:

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WHAT CLINTON GOT RIGHT: I have to say, though, that part of Clinton's analysis of the past two years is spot on. Here's where I thought he got it right:
  • Rolling Stone: I'm interested that you expressed a cautious admiration for [the Bush administration's] political skill. Any other places where you looked and said, "Boy, that's good"?

    Clinton: Well, no. I would say, though -- you know, one of the great things in politics that you have to know is when not to play a card -- because you might win a hand and lose the match. And that's the mistake, I think, they made in 2002. President Bush would have been far better off in his reelection if he'd let the natural rhythm of 2002 unfold and let the Democrats pick up a few seats. We would have held the Senate and maybe increased our margin by one or two; the House would be very close. But it would have compelled him to take a more moderate position.

That's why I think the Dems may do better this year than expected, both in the Congress and the presidential race. Usually, discontent with a president is vented in mid-term elections - especially the kind of discontent fostered by something like the 2000 recount. But that didn't happen. In fact, there's been no electoral venting at Bush yet. Just as Clinton was paradoxically saved by the 1994 Republican victory, Bush may be damned by the 2002 results - and the Rove-orchestrated hubris they spawned.
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:01 PM   #359
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Andrew Sullivan and Bill Clinton together make an interesting point that I haven't seen elsewhere:
That's ridiculous. Bush has not governed as a conservative. Yes, he gives lip service to the social issues, but what "conservative" legislation has he proposed? On fiscal issues, he has been more"libertal" than Clinton himself was. So to say that he would have been better off because he would have been more moderate is just a backdoor way, clever I may add, to cast Bush as out of the mainstream.
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Old 07-24-2004, 03:03 PM   #360
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Can We Dispell the Myth

Given all of the recent (a) violence against the Iraqis and (b) kidnappings of foreign nationals, including diplomats of Arab countries, can we finally agree to put to bed the myth that the violence in Iraq was a result of our "occupation" and instead attribute it to the fight against a democratic Iraq, as outlined in AZ's letter?
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