Patting the wrists, rolling the eyes. - Page 24

ltl/fb · 03-15-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by bilmore
I think people who pay lots of attention - hc left and right - are the only ones who think of her at all. I think a ton of people wander through life making important decisions based on the best last commercial they saw, and she'll make some nice commercials. She's gonna get Dean kicked out of his new comfy chair in 15 months, and then it's Katey bar the door.

She's moved fairly conservative lately - she luvs the troops (ETA - and Bush's handling of Iraq), she wants to deal with anti-abortioners, she's praising parts of conservative spending and not-taxing, and she's no longer a (blatant) commie wingnut. And, like some people talked about during this election, I think people will be ready for a sort of unserious period. After eight years of intense foreign and domestic strife, people will be lookin to relax. I think Hil can offer that to them.

She has too much baggage. It'll be easy to remind people of the healthcare stuff etc. I don't think people generally think about her a lot -- but because they haven't been paying attention, they don't associate her with her new, tougher persona. I bet if there were a poll on associations, it would be (a) cheated on wife (b) not Tammy Wynette "stand by your man" (c) commie healthcare.

Tyrone Slothrop · 03-15-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Guess you didn't go to the factcheck.org link (here it is again: http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231) I posted. Or you would have seen this:

You're a good man, Not Bob.

(spree: sound)

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-15-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
I long for Bradley. Or McCain, even.

I think it's been a more successful strategy to run a governor and unfortunately I'm not familiar with who more than a few governors are.

Watch Mark Warner, current Gov. of Virginia.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 03-15-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Watch Mark Warner, current Gov. of Virginia.

BTW, what's the word on Romney for the other side?

Hank Chinaski · 03-15-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
However, medical records provided by the Kerry campaign to FactCheck.org

You do understand that until Kerry actually allows the records to be made public (signs form 180) that which he provides is so much fluff.
If the Pig Mart tried to pick out what discovery you needed you'd call Bullshit bob, wouldn't you?

ltl/fb · 03-15-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Watch Mark Warner, current Gov. of Virginia.

Is he R or D?

sgtclub · 03-15-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
She has too much baggage. It'll be easy to remind people of the healthcare stuff etc. I don't think people generally think about her a lot -- but because they haven't been paying attention, they don't associate her with her new, tougher persona. I bet if there were a poll on associations, it would be (a) cheated on wife (b) not Tammy Wynette "stand by your man" (c) commie healthcare.

She wins the nomination easily. Whether she wins the who shabang depends on who she runs against. The GOP bench is short right now. Jeb is not going to run, Frist would get creamed, and McCain can't get the nomination. Rice would be interesting, but I'm not convinced she'll run. The wild card is Newt. He's been entertaining a run recently. Talk about a fun race to watch!

ltl/fb · 03-15-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
She wins the nomination easily. Whether she wins the who shabang depends on who she runs against. The GOP bench is short right now. Jeb is not going to run, Frist would get creamed, and McCain can't get the nomination. Rice would be interesting, but I'm not convinced she'll run. The wild card is Newt. He's been entertaining a run recently. Talk about a fun race to watch!

I don't want her to win the nomination, because I don't think she can win the whole thing.

I would like DeLay to run on y'all's side.

bilmore · 03-15-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Guess you didn't go to the factcheck.org link (here it is again:

Doc says, I treated him, corpsman signed off. No one - no one - disputes that. You're only point is, well, you don't think there's enough proof to satisfy you. Find me a dispute, even from Kerry, and we'll talk.

And, the story of the no-firing? Again, any dispute? From anyone? If I remember correctly, a number of people came back with that same story. Was this the injury that even his commander told him to forget, because it was trivial, but he went around him and got a PH anyway, or was that another, different, trivial injury that "merited" a PH?

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-15-2005, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Is he R or D?

Democrat. Former venture capitalist, with access to lots of cash. Plays well in border states, but liberal enough to play well throughout the hard-core blue states. He has more weight than Edwards.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 03-15-2005, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
She wins the nomination easily. Whether she wins the who shabang depends on who she runs against. The GOP bench is short right now. Jeb is not going to run, Frist would get creamed, and McCain can't get the nomination. Rice would be interesting, but I'm not convinced she'll run. The wild card is Newt. He's been entertaining a run recently. Talk about a fun race to watch!

No mention of Collin Powell.

His family might be against it, but he's the R's best candidate.

Not Bob · 03-15-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You do understand that until Kerry actually allows the records to be made public (signs form 180) that which he provides is so much fluff.
If the Pig Mart tried to pick out what discovery you needed you'd call Bullshit bob, wouldn't you?

Has the President authorized the release of all of his service records?

And Bilmore's Swiftie doctor conceded that he "delegated" the signing of the treatment form. Just because Kerry didn't release everything doesn't mean that the stuff he released was fluff.

bilmore · 03-15-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
No mention of Collin Powell.

His family might be against it, but he's the R's best candidate.

He's a better candidate for the D's.

ltl/fb · 03-15-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Democrat. Former venture capitalist, with access to lots of cash. Plays well in border states, but liberal enough to play well throughout the hard-core blue states. He has more weight than Edwards.

OK. I really think governors run better -- they don't have the weird Senate/House voting records (everyone does, because everyone ends up voting for many that can easily be characterized as "bad" or against things that can easily be characterized as "good" simply because of the unrelated shit that gets attached to so many bills).

Run better ultimately, not run better in primaries. Primaries are so much about narrow distinctions.

bilmore · 03-15-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Has the President authorized the release of all of his service records?

Didn't he sign the 180? I thought he did. (Might be wrong on this.)