Fashion Board 3-5-04 to 4-6-04

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Jack Manfred
And speaking of Esquire, for every one thing they get right, they get two things wrong. Compare Rachel Weisz on this month's cover with The Five-Minute Guide to Lesbians and the article where the writer hires a team of bodyguards to see the reaction he gets. Breaking with a decade-long tradition, this issue actually features a readable short story (which means there were at least two other lame articles).

The article on poker, though not particularly insightful, was interesting enough to keep my mind occupied during air travel, which is about all I can ask of a magazine. Concur on the short story. Was it possibly written by one our own? Consider:

" . . . I remain many circles removed from some of the truly bad creatures roaming the planet. People who flirt with every waitress who has the misfortune to serve them, for example. People who hire Mexicans to clean their toilets and people who hire Mexicans to mow their lawns and people who hire Mexicans to raise their cocksucker kids. People who lie about their herpes and who leave their Mexican-raised kids and then fuck nineteen-year-olds working their way through state schools by dancing at the Gold Club, or fuck waitresses at places like Chili's or T.G.I. Friday's in towns on the outskirts of Dallas and in towns like Lake Forest, Illinois."

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
...or fuck waitresses at places like Chili's or T.G.I. Friday's in towns on the outskirts of Dallas ...

Would you like fries with that?

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter


People who hire Mexicans to clean their toilets and people who hire Mexicans to mow their lawns and people who hire Mexicans to raise their cocksucker kids.

Well, someone has to clean BnB's McMansion and mow her lawn. What would the neighbors think if she was mowing her own lawn?

There's nothing like a good yard job to piss of Bobby Bourgeois.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Well, someone has to clean BnB's McMansion and mow her lawn. What would the neighbors think if she was mowing her own lawn?

There's nothing like a good yard job to piss of Bobby Bourgeois.

So, let's see...

I have Luciana to clean the house. Jorge who cuts the grass. Mirasol who looks after the Brazenette. And Coltrane to hit my softballs.

Yes, everything is in order here. It's time for a cocktail.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

I know, it's shitty MSNBC, but I thought it was still worth the link (10 Best Rock Bands Ever):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4595384/

I love Bob Marley, but I'm not sure he and The Wailers were a "rock band". And Pink Floyd was fun in high school, but didn't make it past my freshman year of college.

Edited to add that I would have put the Allman Brothers on this list.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I know, it's shitty MSNBC, but I thought it was still worth the link (10 Best Rock Bands Ever):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4595384/

I love Bob Marley, but I'm not sure he and The Wailers were a "rock band". And Pink Floyd was fun in high school, but didn't make it past my freshman year of college.

Edited to add that I would have put the Allman Brothers on this list.

No Motown, no girl groups, no rap or hip-hop, no group from the 50s, and punk is represented by the Ramones (I like the Ramones, but come on).

If we want the most influential, these aren't them. If you want the greatest musicians, these aren't them. If you want the one's this guy listened to in college, well, now, we understand.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
No Motown, no girl groups, no hip-hop, no group from the 50s, and punk is represented by the Ramones (I like the Ramones, but come on).

If we want the most influential, these aren't them. If you want the greatest musicians, these aren't them. If you want the one's this guy listened to in college, well, now, we understand.

The title is "best rock bands," not "most influential bands" or "best musicians" or even "best bands." By definition you can't include hip-hop or Motown. The author admits that the list is "purely subjective."

I'd like to know which girl group you'd want to include.

[robustpuppy]

This morning I was flipping channels while getting ready for work and caught the following exchange between Regis and Kelly:

Kelly: [taps Regis with back of her hand] You know, today is Mark's birthday! [Looks at camera] Hi honey! Happy Birthday! I love you!

Regis: Oh, it is? [Arch look toward Kelly] Have you thought about what you're going to give him?

Kelly: [pauses, then looks at camera] I was thinking of a brown sugar special! [Grins widely].

Regis: And if you shake it up it will become chocolate foam!

This happened about 4 minutes into the show. It's all I saw (because I hate that show), so I can't give you any context, except that Kelly was very tan and Regis appeared to have a glass of chocolate milk on the table in front of him. But it was freaky.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

I've noticed that a little over 1/2 of my sellers left feedback before I did. Haven't bought anything in the last couple of days, but I hadn't left feedback for a few recent purchases.

Originally posted by dtb
I buy things like ... fancy underwear (again, NWT only).

Overstock.com has quite a lot of LaPerla right now at a little over 1/2 off. Just FYI.

I use one of those sniper sites, so I put bids in, and then forget about them.

I should try one of those - it seems like it would decrease my stress rather a lot. Which do you use? How does it work?

My next target will be those wanker sellers who make their money on shipping costs. (They don't pay commission on the shipping costs -- so I had a seller charge me $8.50 for shipping something that cost $0.49 to send -- but don't you worry, I got $7 back from her -- that little swindler!)

Oh, I can go better than that - I picked up a (really quite nice) antique - price, $9.99. S/H, $185, actual shipping cost: $35. Karma gets those guys sometimes, though - the only negative or neutral feedback my seller had ever gotten was from buyers who didn't realize the game and complained about "good prices but S&H was unreasonable."

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
So, let's see...

I have Luciana to clean the house. Jorge who cuts the grass. Mirasol who looks after the Brazenette. And Coltrane to hit my softballs.

Yes, everything is in order here. It's time for a cocktail.

You forgot Alberto the pool boy.

But I digress. Back to movies. I must disagree with Fugee about "Kissing Jessica Stein." I'm not sure that it belongs on a list of movies that deserve more love (was it on the list? I guess I should have checked before I posted) in that it was pretty much slobbered over by critics. But I found it pretty amusing and an interesting character study. I don't think that it was meant to be all that realistic about lesbians, by the way, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, my two cents. A day late and a dollar short. Which makes it, what, like I get 98 cents back? Whoa (in a keanu-like way).

[Jack Manfred]

A list without Nirvana is a list written by a baby boomer.

If it's a list of rock bands, I can see leaving out Chuck Berry and girl groups, but I agree that this is a list of the bands the author played on his college stereo.

And if we're going to include The Velvet Underground solely for their influence, we have to include either The Pixies, Sonic Youth, or Husker Du. You can make a bold list by choosing The Pixies, leaving off Nirvana and daring people to challenge you. You'd still be wrong, but not as wrong as if you picked Pink Floyd over The Who. You need The Who to ensure The Ramones and the The Jam exist.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

How late to the party am I re: this show? They had a Significant Others marathon last night. Apparently it premiered March 8th? Anyway, it's fucking hilarious. One of the husbands described the vagina as a "melted candle with hair on it." Good times.

http://www.bravotv.com/Significant_Others/

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
The title is "best rock bands," not "most influential bands" or "best musicians" or even "best bands." By definition you can't include hip-hop or Motown. The author admits that the list is "purely subjective."

All true. But Bob Marley should not be on that list (I mean no disrespect, just that reggae is not a sub-genre of rock).

Personally I've always thought that the Grateful Dead was only the most overrated band, but I know legions of tie-dyed patchouli heads would disagree. Ah, well.

I would probably put the Jimi Hendrix Experience in there, with the caveat that I don't know how you deal with personnel changes. I would take Pink Floyd off (I mean, c'mon), and put in The Who.

And I would move Led Zeppelin to Number 2.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
The title is "best rock bands," not "most influential bands" or "best musicians" or even "best bands." By definition you can't include hip-hop or Motown. The author admits that the list is "purely subjective."

I'd like to know which girl group you'd want to include.

The girl group debate I myself would have would be the Ronettes, based on influence, style, and top hits, and Patti Labelle, based on longevity, versatility, and sheer vocal gutsiness (kind of like the Stones, who were one of a number of damn good bands back in the day, but make it on to almost all the top 10 lists based solely on the fact that they kept making music 20 years after their peers stopped, some of it pretty good). I can see the pros and cons of including girl groups, but I think they did a lot for vocals in rock music, and we're back in a world today where the vocals matter.

But "best" has to have some meaning, and listing what he played in college just means these are his favorite bands, nothing more.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
The girl group debate I myself would have would be the Ronettes, based on influence, style, and top hits, and Patti Labelle, based on longevity, versatility, and sheer vocal gutsiness (kind of like the Stones, who were one of a number of damn good bands back in the day, but make it on to almost all the top 10 lists based solely on the fact that they kept making music 20 years after their peers stopped, some of it pretty good). I can see the pros and cons of including girl groups, but I think they did a lot for vocals in rock music, and we're back in a world today where the vocals matter.

But "best" has to have some meaning, and listing what he played in college just means these are his favorite bands, nothing more.

I wouldn't include any girl groups (different genre), but an argument could be made for The Pretenders. Or, in a similar vien (but minus the chicka), The Kinks. I don't think either got honorable mention, but I'm too lazy to check.