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Old 08-11-2004, 07:12 PM   #3616
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Perhaps it works as simple as this...

If an attractive person flirts with you, you probably feel good about it, whether you're a man or woman. If an unattractive/scary/creepy person flirts with you, you don't feel good about it.
If a man flirts with me, it's kind of meaningless, as you guys rarely have more than three sequential unsexual thoughts, but when a woman flirts with me, I know I must be looking good, because there's taste and discrimination involved, and so I feel much better, relatively.
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:16 PM   #3617
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They're fat little furbags that sit up and look around like humans. I dig the little bastards and they're great entertainment for the cats, who go nuts watching them. I can't help it - I'd love to just grab one like a rugby ball and squeeze the little fucker.

I'll let you know how the rabies shots go.
So I saw this thing digging holes in my yard. It looks like this, sort of, I thought it was more brown. I thought it was a mole. It's a woodchuck? Do they dig holes?
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:17 PM   #3618
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If a man flirts with me, it's kind of meaningless, as you guys rarely have more than three sequential unsexual thoughts, but when a woman flirts with me, I know I must be looking good, because there's taste and discrimination involved, and so I feel much better, relatively.
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:17 PM   #3619
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Perhaps it works as simple as this...

If an attractive person flirts with you, you probably feel good about it, whether you're a man or woman. If an unattractive/scary/creepy person flirts with you, you don't feel good about it. You usually think "Huh, what the fuck is he/she thinking?" or "Gross". To a man who is not attracted to men - or can't look at the bright side of these things like me - a man hitting on him is tantamount to a nasty/creepy chick hitting on him. It makes you wonder what kind of vibe you're giving off and makes you wonder how attractive you are. Now, take a super macho fucker like TO and add the element of gay male attention to the mix and you've got a high testoserone cat asking himself "What the fuck does this man think he's going to get from me?" and also thinking "Do I look fucking gay? I'm not fucking gay!!!" And then he does what he usually does in confrontational situations - flip out a bit.

I have never met any woman who was frightened by an attractive guy hitting on her in a polite manner. My guess is a lot of women who feel victimized by leering, whistling workmen are as grossed out at the level of what's leering at them as they are afraid. They're effectively ticked that guys who aren't "in their league" are thinking about fucking them.
I sort of kind of agree with your first statement in the last paragraph, but your second and third statements do not follow from it. Leering and whistling is not polite.

Also, being hit on at all when basically alone in an isolated area is generally pretty frightening, even if the guy is cute. The politeness factor would have to be very, very high. So high that the "I want to have sex with you" factor is pretty much obscured.

Note I did not read the whole post; it was too long. Skimmed, then read the last paragraph in full b/c it struck me as illogical when I skimmed it.
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:22 PM   #3620
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Sorry, Florence. You're right, I'm not being very direct. Let me try again.

You're being a twit. Stop it.

It's inane, the only difference from Penske being fewer personas, and from Hank being not drinking before noon.

But I get it. It's your horse, and you can feel free to ride the goddamn thing and have her perform her trick until she finally falls from exhaustion. And in the meantime, if people complain about consistency or otherwise express irritation at the endless pop psychology, you have the luxury of deciding not to worry about it. As a result, there will be few hobgoblins to trouble your peaceful mind.

(As an aside, I'm sure you're dazzling. I don't really care, but I'm sure you are.)
What? Do I have to stand still to provide scriveners who'll google the piss out of a debate the opportunity to disprove a half-assed half-comedic theory? Should I treat my interaction with you with the same degree of consistency I'd treat an appellate panel argument?

You sir, are the annoying side of the board. The board is for release, and lunatic discussion. I could search, provide reasoned rebuttals, slap together cites and address issues on an organized leval at all times. Your chief issue appears to be my refusal to play within the lines of debate.

In sum, you are dull. You probably don't realize it because you think the reasoned, rational, measured tone of your discourse, and the organized presentation make you one of the most treasured elements of the board. You probably got that because your training tells you that the most organized and most reasoned and consistent of deliveries is the best. Slow, steady, measured, risk-attentive... always watching and hedging to make sure there are no cracks in the theory or gaps in the delivery. You've done your homework, maximized the due diligence, you magnificent first year, you. Unfortunately, that approach is utterly useless in a creative little forum such as this.

To say I'm not troubled by your critique is a huge understatement. I take criticism from the dull as compliments. I'm doing my job.

Now do yours - get a fucking personality.
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:23 PM   #3621
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:25 PM   #3622
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Perhaps it works as simple as this...

If an attractive person flirts with you, you probably feel good about it, whether you're a man or woman. If an unattractive/scary/creepy person flirts with you, you don't feel good about it. You usually think "Huh, what the fuck is he/she thinking?" or "Gross". To a man who is not attracted to men - or can't look at the bright side of these things like me - a man hitting on him is tantamount to a nasty/creepy chick hitting on him. It makes you wonder what kind of vibe you're giving off and makes you wonder how attractive you are. Now, take a super macho fucker like TO and add the element of gay male attention to the mix and you've got a high testoserone cat asking himself "What the fuck does this man think he's going to get from me?" and also thinking "Do I look fucking gay? I'm not fucking gay!!!" And then he does what he usually does in confrontational situations - flip out a bit.

I have never met any woman who was frightened by an attractive guy hitting on her in a polite manner. My guess is a lot of women who feel victimized by leering, whistling workmen are as grossed out at the level of what's leering at them as they are afraid. They're effectively ticked that guys who aren't "in their league" are thinking about fucking them.
I actually agree with that first big paragraph (although I have no idea who TO is, but I don't suppose that's relevant).

However, the second paragraph just isn't cricket; the last sentence especially. My phrase "unwanted sexual attention" is worded that way for a reason. Of course no one is frightened when someone (attractive and polite -- from your hypo) is interested in her/him. The leering/hooting by random strangers is (a) impolite and (b) not infrequently accompanied by a slight feeling of unease. Note, I am not saying "crippling panic" (as was the case with the frozen squirrel), but "slight unease".

I believe I recall your saying you are tall and fit, etc. You are likely not smaller/weaker than at least 50% of the adult population. It's just not "hard wired" into you to feel physical threats at the same point most women would. But why is it so hard for you to understand that remarks from strangers can feel threatening for someone who is (easily overpowered, smaller, etc.)?

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What? Do I have to stand still to provide scriveners who'll google the piss out of a debate the opportunity to disprove a half-assed half-comedic theory? Should I treat my interaction with you with the same degree of consistency I'd treat an appellate panel argument?

You sir, are the annoying side of the board. The board is for release, and lunatic discussion. I could search, provide reasoned rebuttals, slap together cites and address issues on an organized leval at all times. Your chief issue appears to be my refusal to play within the lines of debate.

In sum, you are dull. You probably don't realize it because you think the reasoned, rational, measured tone of your discourse, and the organized presentation make you one of the most treasured elements of the board. You probably got that because your training tells you that the most organized and most reasoned and consistent of deliveries is the best. Slow, steady, measured, risk-attentive... always watching and hedging to make sure there are no cracks in the theory or gaps in the delivery. You've done your homework, maximized the due diligence, you magnificent first year, you.

To say I'm not troubled by your critique is a huge understatement. I take criticism from the dull as compliments. I'm doing my job.

Now do yours - get a fucking personality.
Uh, I think he was hitting on you. Why so defensive?
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:30 PM   #3624
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Ibeing hit on at all when basically alone in an isolated area is generally pretty frightening, even if the guy is cute.
Ted Bundy was pretty good-looking
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:30 PM   #3625
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I actually agree with that first big paragraph (although I have no idea who TO is, but I don't suppose that's relevant).

However, the second paragraph just isn't cricket; the last sentence especially. My phrase "unwanted sexual attention" is worded that way for a reason. Of course no one is frightened when someone (attractive and polite -- from your hypo) is interested in her/him. The leering/hooting by random strangers is (a) impolite and (b) not infrequently accompanied by a slight feeling of unease. Note, I am not saying "crippling panic" (as was the case with the frozen squirrel), but "slight unease".

I believe I recall your saying you are tall and fit, etc. You are likely not smaller/weaker than at least 50% of the adult population. It's just not "hard wired" into you. But why is it so hard for you to understand that remarks from strangers can feel threatening for someone who is?
You know, as to your second paragraph, I wouldn't understand it. You're right. I've been threatened and been in many fights with people bigger than me, but there never was a sexiual compenent to any of it. I was kind of guessing based on some comments my wife used to make about workmen leering at her. I called her a snob because her derision sounded more classist than borne of real fear. Great. She probably thinks I'm a boorish dick. Wait. She thinks that already...
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Ted Bundy was pretty good-looking
Ted Bundy wasn't gay. He played the helpless guy with the broken arm - he didn't hit on people. What's your point?

Or are you saying that you're turned on by him and therefore not manphobic?
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:35 PM   #3627
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Ted Bundy was pretty good-looking
The aura of arrogant confidence exuded by good-looking guys kind of makes them scarier, if you are in an isolated area. Anyone who exudes an attitude that they aren't used to hearing "no" is creepy and scary.
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The aura of arrogant confidence exuded by good-looking guys kind of makes them scarier, if you are in an isolated area. Anyone who exudes an attitude that they aren't used to hearing "no" is creepy and scary.
Where shall we meet, then?
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:48 PM   #3629
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What? Do I have to stand still to provide scriveners who'll google the piss out of a debate the opportunity to disprove a half-assed half-comedic theory? Should I treat my interaction with you with the same degree of consistency I'd treat an appellate panel argument?
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You sir, are the annoying side of the board. The board is for release, and lunatic discussion. I could search, provide reasoned rebuttals, slap together cites and address issues on an organized leval at all times. Your chief issue appears to be my refusal to play within the lines of debate.
Not really. My chief issue was that I thought your observations today were stupid. Your arguments about the lines of debate are better addressed to TM, where as I recall, we stopped at the conclusion that you were to post pictures of your wife's tits.

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To say I'm not troubled by your critique is a huge understatement.
Measured by the length of the response, I'm sure that's true.

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Will do. How do I get yours? Is absinthe involved?
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:54 PM   #3630
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