Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
Exactly. Those are the people who should be made to feel fear and pain, through whatever means, including boycott. Then maybe they rat out their fellow rat or go back.

But I think a well placed nuke here would be better:

So then what you're saying is the Nazi paraphenalia on your avatar isn't really ironic at all. There's only one problem that I can see here; how can God be on your side if you're preaching hatred and fear?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
You didn't follow the argument. Let me dumb it down.

Point 1. Ismam is bad for women. Currently.
Question by AG? Where did you read that ?
Response: Koran.
AG: Well the bible says bad things about a lot of things (that aren't currently practiced)

Really? Went back and read again, and discovered that this recitation gets right neither all of the participants, nor the sequence of posts, nor the content.

Accuracy is often sacrificed upon the altar of simplicity, but the conventions are over.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Why do keep trying to insult all Republicans for the actions of a few?

Fair question.

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Quick question: abandon Israel or nuke Tehran- pick one.

There's the answer.

Hank, I like you. You're like the drunk uncle I never had. But if you really think that this duality is the future, then years of GOP and Dem philosophy and action have already answered this question for you.

GWB should've told us Thursday night that the bombers were headed east right now. Think of that bounce he'd have gotten from that.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Hank, I like you. You're like the drunk uncle I never had. But if you really think that this duality is the future, then years of GOP and Dem philosophy and action have already answered this question for you.

GWB should've told us Thursday night that the bombers were headed east right now. Think of that bounce he'd have gotten from that.

And thurgreed is like the big brother you try and get to handle your fights. One big family. must be nice for you. except in reality brother T. and I would be making fun of you for being such a punk all the time. no offense.

Instead, how bout in your sweet dreams thinking on the only evidence, not rhetoric, that has been posted by anyone in tihs thread. Of ourse, as usual, it was in one of my posts.

1 Osama has become one of the most popular names in Islamic countries.
2 toys showing planes or Osama knocking down the twin towers are apparantly widespread in the ME.
3 80% of saudis hated us before Iraqui. 85% think we probably staged 9/11.

Gattigap: Remain calm. everything is under control!

Nitey nite everybody! don't let the bedbugs bite.

[sgtclub]

The new talking points for the Dems seem to be that the GOP is just not fighting fair. This is both (1) a spin, which they hope will garner votes and (2) setting up an excuse if they lose again. Operatives like Susan Estrich have suggested the Dems need to go "dirty" http://www.creators.com/opinion_show...olumnsName=ses to combat the GOP mudslinging.

These people have some nerve, especially given the following:

A Democrat Congressman says the Bush administration is taking America "into a snake pit of fascism."

Getting former astronaut and Democrat Senator John Glenn to trot out the Hitler comparison.

Three liberal protestors tried to disrupt Bush's convention speech (funny, I didn't see any conservatives trying to disrupt Kerry's speech to the DNC convention).

A featured speaker at a NOW rally says Bush "savagely raped " women "over and over."

Zillionaires like George Soros trying to buy the election for Kerry through the 527 loophole, of which Democrats have made far greater use than the GOP.

Unions using members' dues to fund political activities that almost uniformly support Democrats.

When a state police union bucks the tide by considering supporting Bush, Democrat legislators threaten retaliation.

Democrat operatives working overtime to keep Ralph Nader off the ballot, thus besmirching the very name of their party.

The Democrat's media allies planning a 60 Minutes smear of Bush's National Guard service.

Kitty Kelley's book smearing Bush that will be released as a last-minute October surprise.

Michael Moore's fantasies turned into a feature-length campaign ad.

Bruce Springsteen getting around campaign finance laws by organizing an anti-Bush concert.

Free advertising for the left at nearly every Hollywood awards show where one or more acceptance speechs attack Bush.

The incredible media bias towards Democrats, which Newsweek editor Evan Thomas says is worth "maybe 15 points" for Kerry.

[SlaveNoMore]

taxwonk
So, then, are you saying that LaRouche isn't really a Democrat and therefore shouldn't have been invited to speak at the Democratic Convention, or are you saying that the party leadership on both sides should provide a platform for the lunatic fringe?

Let's refresh, shall we.

You:

Why wasn't Pat Buchanan asked to speak at the RNC this year? ... Is the tent not big enough for PJB?

Apparently, you feel that the RNC should fringe candidates to speak, but not the Dems. This is silly.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
You didn't follow the argument. Let me dumb it down.

Point 1. Ismam is bad for women. Currently.
Question by AG? Where did you read that ?
Response: Koran.
AG: Well the bible says bad things about a lot of things (that aren't currently practiced)

Unlike the socks who take your side on this one, you're a smart and funny poster, and I like you. However, you have consistently been unable to say anything productive, incisive, or funny about Islam. You're out of your element on this one topic --- the only one I have yet seen that did not have me either stroking my chin thoughtfully or laughing with agreement or amusement. Not that I expect you to have a sense of humor about it. I just expected more than, well, this. Okay, I'll stop with the Bilmore act for now.

What actually happened in this argument is that you pointed to a Qur'anic verse to support the view that the followers of that book, of whatever degree of radicalism or fundamentalism would be better nuked. Well, warm up the stockpile --- it's going to be a long nuclear winter. Judeo-Christian civilization is built around a book of equal or greater brutality. Mind you, I don't disagree that the measure of the book is what is done in response to it, and Christianity and Judaism eventually abandoned the mindset embodied in the Hebrew Scriptures, but jeez, you'd figure a litigator would realize that sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and taking snippets of the book is a very poor way to judge the people who think it's sacred. Or to decide who gets nuked.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Apparently, you feel that the RNC should fringe candidates to speak, but not the Dems. This is silly.

Silly perhaps, but it's interesting that it invited speakers only from its left fringe. The circus we call the modern GOP may be a big tent, but they keep the freak show locked in their cages until after the convention.

[SlaveNoMore]

Atticus Grinch
Silly perhaps, but it's interesting that it invited speakers only from its left fringe. The circus we call the modern GOP may be a big tent, but they keep the freak show locked in their cages until after the convention.

Really. And the Dems released the hounds not at your convention - but during ours, with their outrageous Nazi Germany comparisons and "rape of women" comments.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Really. And the Dems released the hounds not at your convention - but during ours, with their outrageous Nazi Germany comparisons and "rape of women" comments.

Do you think its possible that all the NOW propoganda is really spoken by men pretending to be women? I hear there's alot of that going around nowadays. I mean how could they take the side of Teddy glug glug K. or Bill "I'll show you sexual harassment" C. over the party of Lincoln?

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by taxwonk
[1.] So then what you're saying is the Nazi paraphenalia on your avatar isn't really ironic at all. There's only one problem that I can see here; [2] how can God be on your side if you're preaching hatred and fear?

1. No. It's not Nazi, it's Rock and Roll. I'll change it back to Jenifer Connelly just for you.
2. Who said anything about God? Maybe he's on my side, maybe he's not. Maybe the Muslims are right and God thinks it's just to kill schoolchildren that are the children of infidels. I don't give a fuck. I say nuke 'em as a matter of self-preservation.

But then, I think it's probably morallly wrong to exterminate a wasp's nest in my storm gutters too, killing thousands of innocent wasps who aren't individually responsible for the two that stung my kid. So sorry.

[pony_trekker]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
What actually happened in this argument is that you pointed to a Qur'anic verse to support the view that the followers of that book, of whatever degree of radicalism or fundamentalism would be better nuked.

No. Absolutely not. I pointed to the verse from the Koran in response to your request for a demonstration that the proposition that subservience of women in Muslim countries was written down somewhere.

I don't buy this "my God is better than your God" shit.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by pony_trekker
But then, I think it's probably morallly wrong to exterminate a wasp's nest in my storm gutters too, killing thousands of innocent wasps who aren't individually responsible for the two that stung my kid. So sorry.

I'm glad to see you realize the bigotry in blaming (or expecting an apology from) any wasp other than the two that stung your kid (or wishing the wasps would condemn the tactics of the stingers). All this hoopla about there being an issue among many Muslims concerning the tendency to advocate or tacitly support the use of terrorist tactics is just discrimination against Muslims. Nineteen individual Muslims were responsible for the Towers and their inhabitants going down and nobody else period. Nobody has any business examining anything like the sentiment on the Arab Street, funding of those and other terrorists (by Mosques or other funding) etc., or encouraging a more vocal and public dialogue among influential Muslim groups. People like Fouad Ajami who want to see this dialogue? They're just "bigots" spewing "hatred" and they don't have "God on their side." Carry on



The cheering by these Egyptian residents of the WTC tower collapse has no broader meaning whatsoever beyond the men pictured. We should not expect anyone to condemn terrorist tactics and the loss of innocent human lives and to do so is bigotry. That they are Muslim is just a coincidence. Surely, hoardes of Irish Catholics stood in the streets of Dublin cheering too

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Diane_Keaton That they are Muslim is just a coincidence. Surely, hoardes of Irish Catholics stood in the streets of Dublin cheering too.

AG is just a race baiter. Why the fuck else would someone bring slave reparations into a discussion of islam-inspired terrorism? He is just a filthy race baiter.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
And thurgreed is like the big brother you try and get to handle your fights. One big family. must be nice for you. except in reality brother T. and I would be making fun of you for being such a punk all the time. no offense.

None taken, Uncle Hank. Don't worry -- though Dad is still awfully pissed about the incest, Mom forgives you, and is working to have the restraining order regarding T stricken. Time heals all wounds, Hank.

Instead, how bout in your sweet dreams thinking on the only evidence, not rhetoric, that has been posted by anyone in tihs thread. Of ourse, as usual, it was in one of my posts.

1 Osama has become one of the most popular names in Islamic countries.
2 toys showing planes or Osama knocking down the twin towers are apparantly widespread in the ME.
3 80% of saudis hated us before Iraqui. 85% think we probably staged 9/11.

Sounds like an argument for nuking Riyadh instead of Tehran, but then again I guess they're somewhat interchangble, yes?

Actually, maybe you can confirm this is the "evidence" that points to your "conclusion." I'd hate for this to be another argument where I'm kicking your ass over the B52 bomber, and only later does it come out that you're discussing the music group.

Gattigap: Remain calm. everything is under control!

Nitey nite everybody! don't let the bedbugs bite.

The divergence between what's actually said -- and what the recipient apparently wants to hear -- is sometimes jarring. This is one of those times.