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[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Cavs 86

Pistons 84

I am both stunned and thrilled. The last three games are a sea-change from the first two. I never would have thought they would be one game away from beating the top team in the conference this year.

Str8-- please tell me that you are staying with the Pistons to win in 7, even if you are not. Don't go changing on me now.

I was rooting for the Cavs before the series started, but after Lebron's ridiculous play and Rasheed's ridiculous mouth, I want the Cavs to win so bad, Hank's momma can taste it.

Lebron winning this series would be more impressive than Jordan beating the Cavs almost single-handedly in '89 because that was a 5 game set and Jordan probably had a better team. That and Lebron is doing it all, whereas, at that point, Jordan was just scoring and hitting game-winners.

Spookyfish exorcising that ghost?

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by spookyfish
You have something against tall ugly people? You're going to hurt Hank's feelings.

I'm not ugly, you're just so short you're always looking up at me, and I do have a weak jawline. contra Thurgreed asked to use my photo for his Myspace profile.

The Cavs most impressive play is on defense. The Pistons look lost on offense. Ben Wallace cannot go 0-7 and be on the court. Chauncey played the worst game I have seen him play- so many dumb turnovers.

All that said, the last two years in early rounds they did this exact thing. It's like they can't get motivated until they're at the brink- and that's going to catch up to them sooner or later. I can't believe they continue to step into these tarpits.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I wonder if "Song of the South" will ever emerge from Disney's vault.

ETA: Not any time soon, per a March 2006 shareholder's meeting at Disney..

Song of the South and the Br'er Rabbit stories that gave birth to it can't be not racially tainted. The whole genesis of them, as with the story of Little Black Sambo, was to demonstrate, in fond and loving way, of course, the delightful and simple foibles of those wacky Negroes.

The underlying message of course was that they are inherently inferior, and they needs us White Folks to protect and guide them, else they'd just plumb up and starve themselves to death.

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
To the Sirius subscribers out there, can I get a show of hands as to whether you think Howard Stern's latest bit of "singing conversation to the tune of the Aqualung" riff is funny or not? I'm still on the fence.

The John Daly interview today was pretty great. Apparently JD is seriously packing. I'd pay big bucks to see him and Artie on a bender together.

And speaking of gambling problems, am I glad I'm not doing that anymore, because between the Pistons tonight and the Clippers yesterday, holy cow.

And Arsenal on penalties. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

(see sig line link below)

[Replaced_Texan]

ACL lineup is out

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
ACL lineup is out

Holy crap. For the most part, that's really impressive, although I wouldn't cross the street to John Mayer -- even though he's a really good guitarist.

[Southern Patriot]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Song of the South and the Br'er Rabbit stories that gave birth to it can't be not racially tainted. The whole genesis of them, as with the story of Little Black Sambo, was to demonstrate, in fond and loving way, of course, the delightful and simple foibles of those wacky Negroes.

The underlying message of course was that they are inherently inferior, and they needs us White Folks to protect and guide them, else they'd just plumb up and starve themselves to death.

Now, son, those are just great old stories about the way it was in the South. I know you Yankees think it was all just whips and chains, but those whips were really kept for other uses.

Besides, those good ole boy scientists who wrote the Bell Curve have proven that this is just the way it is. Just ask Hank and Penske, they'll tell you.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Song of the South and the Br'er Rabbit stories that gave birth to it can't be not racially tainted. The whole genesis of them, as with the story of Little Black Sambo, was to demonstrate, in fond and loving way, of course, the delightful and simple foibles of those wacky Negroes.

Ummm...Little Black Sambo was Indian. Not saying the book wasn't racist, at least in the illustrations, but wrong race. And the story itself is pretty innocuous. Sambo, in the context of Little Black Sambo, suffers the same fate as Tar Babies and Niggardly.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Ummm...Little Black Sambo was Indian. Not saying the book wasn't racist, at least in the illustrations, but wrong race. And the story itself is pretty innocuous. Sambo, in the context of Little Black Sambo, suffers the same fate as Tar Babies and Niggardly.

Niggardly just sounds racist but has no racial history whatsoever, unless I'm totally missing something. The etymological derivation isn't race-based at all. On the other hand, tar baby does have a race-based derivation, right?

Just saying, as one who is fond of language, that I think niggardly is getting a bad rap here simply because of the ignorance of the general public. Not saying I would use it in conversation though. Also, it makes me think of that Dave Chapelle skit. I miss him.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
On the other hand, tar baby does have a race-based derivation, right?

No, not originally, according to the sources. It's a sticky situation--from the tar. (although apparently the expression derives from african folklore, but presumably such folklore didn't originate as self-derogation).

But the term has also been used in a derogatory way (hence, I assume, the title of the Toni Morrison book)

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Ummm...Little Black Sambo was Indian. Not saying the book wasn't racist, at least in the illustrations, but wrong race. And the story itself is pretty innocuous. Sambo, in the context of Little Black Sambo, suffers the same fate as Tar Babies and Niggardly.

Either way, it's the same message. White Man's Burden, you know.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Ummm...Little Black Sambo was Indian. Not saying the book wasn't racist, at least in the illustrations, but wrong race. And the story itself is pretty innocuous. Sambo, in the context of Little Black Sambo, suffers the same fate as Tar Babies and Niggardly.

I haven't read the story in years, though my grandmother either gave me a copy or had a copy at her house. I remember being afraid of the tigers and then giggling inanely when they turned into butter. Rereading the story, without the illustrations, it doesn't seem to be particularly racist. Tigers might object to it though.

http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext98/sambo11.txt

Incidently, fucking lawyers: Half the Project Gutenberg text is disclaimer.

ETA: I'd never heard of Little Black Mingo before. I blame the dominant male paradigm.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Just saying, as one who is fond of language, that I think niggardly is getting a bad rap here simply because of the ignorance of the general public.

Dare I say "no pun intended?"

Originally posted by baltassoc
Ummm...Little Black Sambo was Indian. Not saying the book wasn't racist, at least in the illustrations, but wrong race. And the story itself is pretty innocuous. Sambo, in the context of Little Black Sambo, suffers the same fate as Tar Babies and Niggardly.

Yeah, I always got the impression that he outsmarted his enemies and won - racing the tigers around and around until they turned into butter, no?

I think there's a moderate amount of money and talk show-level fame to be had in publishing some kind of utterly superficial book titled Little Black Sambo and The Niggardly Tar Baby: A 21st Century Fable where someone explains that all these things aren't really racist -- just misunderstood by everyone's favorite villian (after Opus Dei): The Ignorant Liberal PC Thought Police.

You'd be on cable tv every night for a month. And possibly have your house burned down, but whatever. Any takers?

[Sparklehorse]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Niggardly just sounds racist but has no racial history whatsoever, unless I'm totally missing something. The etymological derivation isn't race-based at all. On the other hand, tar baby does have a race-based derivation, right?

Just saying, as one who is fond of language, that I think niggardly is getting a bad rap here simply because of the ignorance of the general public. Not saying I would use it in conversation though. Also, it makes me think of that Dave Chapelle skit. I miss him.

In the original story (as Thurgreed* posted), Brer Fox constructs a figure from tar which he tried to use to catch the wily Brer Rabbit, in order to make him into a meal. So the tar baby is supposed to be like rabbit flypaper. I believe it was (or claimed to be) originally from stories told in slave quarters.

*As an aside, my niece recently met Thurgood Marshall, Jr. I have discovered, when talking about this, I have a very hard saying "Thur-GOOD" now.