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09-06-2005, 01:09 PM
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Blame this one on Blanco and Nagin, Penske
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Do you actually know that her demeanor got in the way of something, or are you just inferring that? What is that she hasn't done?
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I know that "this behavior" did not abate, despite her tongue-lashing.
And, if Nagin is to be believed, her inability to make a decision cost the lives of the 24 hours she evidently needed in order to decide what to do.
Her comments and demeanor did not inspire or give people anyting to hold onto. She dissolved, which is not leadership.
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09-06-2005, 01:10 PM
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#3692
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Blame this one on Blanco and Nagin, Penske
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Originally posted by nononono
Blanco's whole demeanor has been, in my opinion, reactive and weak, where she should be aggressive and proactive. She sounded like a lecturing schoolmarm on the topic of looting: "
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Her background is that she was a public school teacher. She went from wreaking havoc in one public administration to another.
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09-06-2005, 01:12 PM
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#3693
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Tomorrow's newspapers today
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Maybe because he screwed up? I don't know. But even if he had, there'd have been many thousands of people there.
Why do you think that trashing Nagin and Blanco somehow redeems FEMA and the federal government? Why?????
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The magnitude of the loss of life, which is the most important immediate issue would have/could have been greatly reduced if the buses had rolled. We will never know. Nagin's failure was primary and you still duck the key question and implicitly defend his failure as de minimis while criticising the Feds. As Spanky rightly noted, your ostrich positioning, in lockstep with that of your party, is what will keep the federal government in Republican hands for centuries to come.
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09-06-2005, 01:13 PM
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#3694
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I am beyond a rank!
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Blame this one on Blanco and Nagin, Penske
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Her background is that she was a public school teacher. She went from wreaking havoc in one public administration to another.
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Eeek, well, you can take the girl out of the classroom, I guess....
Do you know what she taught?
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09-06-2005, 01:14 PM
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More Dim wit
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
[channeling Ty] Perhaps there are one or two people whom Sean Penn and his entourage of photographers and assistants actually helped, and I suspect that you are right in that assessment. But we don't really know how effective or efficent he was, do we, since all that story told us is that he rescued a couple of people and gave them some cash ($1 each???).
I applaud you for reading quality journalistic sources like the NY DailyNews so carefully and sharing the choice bits with us here.[/channeling Ty]
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All I know is that it appears as though he has helped some people who otherwise would not have been helped or helped them sooner than the "real" help could have. That outweighs any attention whoring that has occurred (in my book).
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09-06-2005, 01:15 PM
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#3696
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Blame this one on Blanco and Nagin, Penske
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Do you actually know that her demeanor got in the way of something, or are you just inferring that? What is that she hasn't done?
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Her job as a first responder. To protect her turf she told the Feds to talk to her hand and then she failed to coordinate with Nagin. Why are you so vested in defending her failure, other than your biased desire to blame Bush for the bulk of the failure? And note, BUsh is the only one who has accepted responsibility for relative failure. Nagin and Blanco just point the finger.
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09-06-2005, 01:18 PM
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#3697
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Blame this one on Blanco and Nagin, Penske
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Originally posted by nononono
Eeek, well, you can take the girl out of the classroom, I guess....
Do you know what she taught?
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Subject? No. But judging by Louisiana's standardised test scoring whatever it is was it was not taught well. Much like the way she executes her duties of Governor.
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09-06-2005, 01:19 PM
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World Ruler
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Tomorrow's newspapers today
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
The magnitude of the loss of life, which is the most important immediate issue would have/could have been greatly reduced if the buses had rolled. We will never know. Nagin's failure was primary and you still duck the key question and implicitly defend his failure as de minimis while criticising the Feds. As Spanky rightly noted, your ostrich positioning, in lockstep with that of your party, is what will keep the federal government in Republican hands for centuries to come.
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Why should the government be counted on to provide transportation? Shouldn't the market have found a way to provide the necessary resources?
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09-06-2005, 01:19 PM
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#3699
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WacKtose Intolerant
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More Dim wit
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
All I know is that it appears as though he has helped some people who otherwise would not have been helped or helped them sooner than the "real" help could have. That outweighs any attention whoring that has occurred (in my book).
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How do you know other help might not have been coming relatively contemporaneously and Penn just scored a photo-op by a matter of minutes?
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09-06-2005, 01:21 PM
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Blame this one on Blanco and Nagin, Penske
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Originally posted by nononono
I know that "this behavior" did not abate, despite her tongue-lashing.
And, if Nagin is to be believed, her inability to make a decision cost the lives of the 24 hours she evidently needed in order to decide what to do.
Her comments and demeanor did not inspire or give people anyting to hold onto. She dissolved, which is not leadership.
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Great. What was really needed in Lousiana last week was a strong leader with the forceful presence to make sure that everyone watching on their TVs across America thought all was going well. If only Blanco had been more, Bush-like.
- "Yesterday, I was hoping President Bush would come away from his tour of the regional devastation triggered by Hurricane Katrina with a new understanding for the magnitude of the suffering and for the abject failures of the current Federal Emergency Management Agency. 24 hours later, the President has yet to answer my call for a cabinet-level official to lead our efforts. Meanwhile, FEMA, now a shell of what it once was, continues to be overwhelmed by the task at hand.
"I understand that the U.S. Forest Service had water-tanker aircraft available to help douse the fires raging on our riverfront, but FEMA has yet to accept the aid. When Amtrak offered trains to evacuate significant numbers of victims -- far more efficiently than buses -- FEMA again dragged its feet. Offers of medicine, communications equipment and other desperately needed items continue to flow in, only to be ignored by the agency.
"But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast -- black and white, rich and poor, young and old -- deserve far better from their national government.
"Mr. President, I'm imploring you once again to get a cabinet-level official stood up as soon as possible to get this entire operation moving forward regionwide with all the resources -- military and otherwise -- necessary to relieve the unmitigated suffering and economic damage that is unfolding."
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09-06-2005, 01:21 PM
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#3701
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Tomorrow's newspapers today
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Why should the government be counted on to provide transportation? Shouldn't the market have found a way to provide the necessary resources?
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No, public safety is the job of the government. Without that function Government is unnecessary. The law of the gun would suffice, which is waht happened when Nagin and Blanco dropped the ball.
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09-06-2005, 01:24 PM
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#3702
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Less is right, but as to Politics, not the FB.
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Subject? No. But judging by Louisiana's standardised test scoring whatever it is was it was not taught well. Much like the way she executes her duties of Governor.
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Jesus Fucking Christ, penske. If you aren't getting paid for this by some GOP 527 group or foundation, then you should be.
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09-06-2005, 01:25 PM
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#3703
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World Ruler
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Less is right, but as to Politics, not the FB.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
Jesus Fucking Christ, penske. If you aren't getting paid for this by some GOP 527 group or foundation, then you should be.
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I think you mean Babyjesus Fucking Christ.
eta: Am I missing a hyphen or two here? dtb?
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09-06-2005, 01:26 PM
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#3704
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Blame this one on Blanco and Nagin, Penske
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop Blah blah blah quote from Senator Landrieu
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Well done Ty, you are quoting someone on leadership in the crisis who has so little judgement or respect for our laws that she has violated Federal statutes by threatening the physical being of the PotUS. When is the Senate going to censure her for violating that statute?
Wonk was censored for the same, where is the justice?
eta: and she is chunky and attemtps to hide it with deceptive photo-ops
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09-06-2005, 01:27 PM
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#3705
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Less is right, but as to Politics, not the FB.
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Originally posted by Not Bob
Jesus Fucking Christ, penske. If you aren't getting paid for this by some GOP 527 group or foundation, then you should be.
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The truth must be told N_B. I am just patriot in the trenches here and at the D.U. doing my civic duty.
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