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07-13-2005, 05:10 PM
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#3706
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In my dreams ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Das anti-Kapitalists!
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I didn't read the entire thing, but are you pointing to this:
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Actually, this:
- Poverty. Women with incomes below 200% of poverty made up 30% of all women of reproductive age, but accounted for 57% of all women having abortions in 2000: Twenty-seven percent of abortions were obtained by women living below the poverty line, and another 31% by women with incomes of 100-199% of poverty. The concentration of economically disadvantaged women among those having abortions was greater in 2000 than in 1994, when 50% of women obtaining abortions had incomes of less than 200% of poverty.
Abortion rates decreased as income rose, from 44 per 1,000 among poor women to 10 per 1,000 among the highest-income women. In 1994 as well, women with incomes below 200% of poverty had higher abortion rates than higher-income women. However, between 1994 and 2000, rates decreased among middle- and higher-income women, whereas they increased among poor and low-income women.
The high abortion rates among economically disadvantaged women were partly due to high pregnancy rates—133 per 1,000 for poor women and 115 per 1,000 for low-income women. As income increased, pregnancy rates declined, and women with the highest incomes had a pregnancy rate of 66 per 1,000. These women were the least likely to abort their pregnancies (15%), and poor and low-income women were the most likely to do so (33%).
And this: - Education. Among women aged 20 or older, those who had not graduated from high school accounted for 13% of abortions (Table 1). High school graduates made up 30% of women having an abortion, and those with at least some college, 57%.
The abortion rate among college graduates (13 per 1,000) was lower than average; moreover, women with college degrees were the only educational group to show a higher-than-average decline in abortion rates (30%) between 1994 and 2000. The relatively small proportion of pregnancies among college graduates that ended in abortion (21%) and the below-average pregnancy rate account for their low abortion rate. Women with some college had a pregnancy rate that was lower than average, but 38% of their pregnancies ended in abortion in 2000, resulting in the highest abortion rate of any educational group (26 per 1,000).
We also examined abortion rates by school enrollment status among women younger than 20 (not shown). Nearly two-thirds of adolescents who had an abortion were enrolled in school during the month they became pregnant. Enrollees had a lower abortion rate than adolescents who were not in school (19 vs. 65 per 1,000). The abortion rate for adolescents enrolled in school decreased by 29% between 1994 and 2000, and the rate for their out-of-school peers declined by 13%.
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07-13-2005, 05:13 PM
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#3707
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Flaired.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Out with Lumbergh.
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Final Thought
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Originally posted by robustpuppy
I know email doesn't give a full picture of a person, but blah blahdey blah blah blah blahdey blah, what a fucking narcicisst. You're probably saddened by the fact that someone so unworthy dumped you first over something so wacky. Don't feel bad, that happened to me once, by this dorky guy with enormous ears. I still get the shivers thinking about it.
P.S. It's not twue what they say about men with big ears.
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He's a wordier, democrat-affiliated Spanky. What's not to love?
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07-13-2005, 05:15 PM
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#3708
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: State of Chaos
Posts: 8,197
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Final Thought
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
He's a wordier, democrat-affiliated Spanky. What's not to love?
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I see him more as a succinct, artsy, non-materialistic mmmmmmmbop.
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07-13-2005, 05:16 PM
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#3709
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Throwing a kettle over a pub
Posts: 14,743
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Dumped By a Dem
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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
(d) annoying as bulletin board posting material because no one is ever going to persuade someone anonymously to change their political stance
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Before you posted this, I would have disagreed. However, I think I'm now with you on this.
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No no no, that's not gonna help. That's not gonna help and I'll tell you why: It doesn't unbang your Mom.
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07-13-2005, 05:18 PM
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#3710
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Final Thought
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Originally posted by I Am A Sad Sock
It just sucks because although he is an odd looking kind of guy, he grew on me and I ended up feeling hot for him and he also did nice things. I'm wondering if I should let him cool down for a while more and then call him and say "come on; don't be silly". The only thing that stops me is looking back at some of his emails (like the one below -- note that his job is in management/tech, not art) and then I think, "Maybe you should leave this thing alone". Well anyway, thanks for the thoughts and humor. For some reason, this one really shook me up and saddened me. I hate to say it, but I miss him (though not the wingnut stuff).
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I'm sorry things with you and Not Bob didn't work out. But don't you think it's a little early for you to start socking?
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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07-13-2005, 05:21 PM
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#3711
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Random Syndicate (admin)
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Romantically enfranchised
Posts: 14,276
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Dumped By a Dem
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Before you posted this, I would have disagreed. However, I think I'm now with you on this.
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Promises of sex if they swich sides doesn't seem to work. I think you're both probably right.
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"In the olden days before the internet, you'd take this sort of person for a ride out into the woods and shoot them, as Darwin intended, before he could spawn."--Will the Vampire People Leave the Lobby? pg 79
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07-13-2005, 05:24 PM
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#3712
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: In that cafe crowded with fools
Posts: 1,466
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Final Thought
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I'm sorry things with you and Not Bob didn't work out. But don't you think it's a little early for you to start socking?
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Oh, rude! And me in my misery.
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Why was I born with such contemporaries?
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07-13-2005, 05:26 PM
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#3713
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 12,057
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Das anti-Kapitalists!
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Originally posted by sgtclub
I'm not talking about teaching abstinence. I'm talking about real, honest to god sex education. We were required to take a full semester of it. Abstinence was not even mentioned.
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And I'll bet that you've never had an abortion. It must have worked.
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"More than two decades later, it is hard to imagine the Revolutionary War coming out any other way."
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07-13-2005, 05:26 PM
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#3714
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
Posts: 7,007
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Das anti-Kapitalists!
Quote:
Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Actually, this:
- Poverty. Women with incomes below 200% of poverty made up 30% of all women of reproductive age, but accounted for 57% of all women having abortions in 2000: Twenty-seven percent of abortions were obtained by women living below the poverty line, and another 31% by women with incomes of 100-199% of poverty. The concentration of economically disadvantaged women among those having abortions was greater in 2000 than in 1994, when 50% of women obtaining abortions had incomes of less than 200% of poverty.
Abortion rates decreased as income rose, from 44 per 1,000 among poor women to 10 per 1,000 among the highest-income women. In 1994 as well, women with incomes below 200% of poverty had higher abortion rates than higher-income women. However, between 1994 and 2000, rates decreased among middle- and higher-income women, whereas they increased among poor and low-income women.
The high abortion rates among economically disadvantaged women were partly due to high pregnancy rates—133 per 1,000 for poor women and 115 per 1,000 for low-income women. As income increased, pregnancy rates declined, and women with the highest incomes had a pregnancy rate of 66 per 1,000. These women were the least likely to abort their pregnancies (15%), and poor and low-income women were the most likely to do so (33%).
And this:- Education. Among women aged 20 or older, those who had not graduated from high school accounted for 13% of abortions (Table 1). High school graduates made up 30% of women having an abortion, and those with at least some college, 57%.
The abortion rate among college graduates (13 per 1,000) was lower than average; moreover, women with college degrees were the only educational group to show a higher-than-average decline in abortion rates (30%) between 1994 and 2000. The relatively small proportion of pregnancies among college graduates that ended in abortion (21%) and the below-average pregnancy rate account for their low abortion rate. Women with some college had a pregnancy rate that was lower than average, but 38% of their pregnancies ended in abortion in 2000, resulting in the highest abortion rate of any educational group (26 per 1,000).
We also examined abortion rates by school enrollment status among women younger than 20 (not shown). Nearly two-thirds of adolescents who had an abortion were enrolled in school during the month they became pregnant. Enrollees had a lower abortion rate than adolescents who were not in school (19 vs. 65 per 1,000). The abortion rate for adolescents enrolled in school decreased by 29% between 1994 and 2000, and the rate for their out-of-school peers declined by 13%.
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Looks like I was wrong on the wealth side and arguably right on the education side. So I stand partially corrected. However, it still doesn't change my view that governmentally funded birth control and education would have a material effect on these results.
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07-13-2005, 05:28 PM
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#3715
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Flaired.
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Out with Lumbergh.
Posts: 9,954
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Das anti-Kapitalists!
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
Looks like I was wrong on the wealth side and arguably right on the education side. So I stand partially corrected. However, it still doesn't change my view that governmentally funded birth control and education would have a material effect on these results.
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aren't you missing a "not" in there somewhere? or I've misunderstood your stance.
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07-13-2005, 05:28 PM
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#3716
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Too Good For Post Numbers
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 65,535
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Dumped By a Dem
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Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Power sways back and forth, small changes to law are made, but our government basically just spins its wheels and makes a lot of noise. Kind of like a really loud fart that doesn't smell.
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There are a couple of million people across the water who can now vote. There are three plastic shredder manufacturers who have gone out of business. We're keeping a significant number of Africans alive who otherwise wouldn't be. All in all, it's an impressive fart.
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07-13-2005, 05:28 PM
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#3717
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
Posts: 7,007
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Das anti-Kapitalists!
Quote:
Originally posted by Shape Shifter
And I'll bet that you've never had an abortion. It must have worked.
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I would guess that the women in my group had more abortions than the average. Or maybe I just hung out with sluts.
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07-13-2005, 05:28 PM
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#3718
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pop goes the chupacabra
Posts: 18,532
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Rehnquist
So, NFH didn't tip us off to his hospitalization.
Here's the question:
Rehnquist
a) Resigns first
b) Dies first.
I'm taking b.
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07-13-2005, 05:28 PM
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#3719
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In my dreams ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,955
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Das anti-Kapitalists!
Quote:
Originally posted by sgtclub
Looks like I was wrong on the wealth side and arguably right on the education side. So I stand partially corrected. However, it still doesn't change my view that governmentally funded birth control and education would have a material effect on these results.
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Or arguably wrong on the education side - the data are, at best, neutral.
You were talking about G funded birth control and sex education, right?
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07-13-2005, 05:29 PM
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#3720
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
Posts: 7,007
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Das anti-Kapitalists!
Quote:
Originally posted by notcasesensitive
aren't you missing a "not" in there somewhere? or I've misunderstood your stance.
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yes. my bad.
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