Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
if you kept your daughter home from school you were appeasing the Islamists

Similar to the argument my GPs made. "If you stay home, the terrorists win!" Fuck, no. If I stay home and call opp counsel in all my cases and get discovery deadline extensions while they're in tears because of their overwhelming grief and "priorities," I win.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Similar to the argument my GPs made. "If you stay home, the terrorists win!

My GP's were far more direct, telling me that if I stayed home, I'd lose. They never specified exactly what I would lose, but then, they don't have to.

[bilmore]

The voters of France overwhelmingly are going for Kerry:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ce_threat_dc_2

Money quote: "Mrs. Borde said the French see in Mr. Kerry the kind of leader they are more accustomed to. "

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by bilmore
The voters of France overwhelmingly are going for Kerry:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ce_threat_dc_2

Money quote: "Mrs. Borde said the French see in Mr. Kerry the kind of leader they are more accustomed to. "

One who has the respect of the international community? Or just one who was elected by a majority of the people?

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
What kind of revisionist bunk is this? If not glued to the television, every single NYer I know was in a local bar getting plastered for several days.

Yeah, but I, too, was "demonstrating in the streets" by having my ass at the office the first day the market reopened and G let civies back into the area where my office is, a few blocks away. Not much work was getting done other than calling clients and letting them know we were alive and had electricity, and finding out if they were alive and had electricity, and there was much drinking at lunch and at 5 pm sharp (though as I recall, you and I and some other GA hangers-on had a pretty tough time even finding a bar that was OPEN down here in which to get drunk that first day NYC was open below Canal street). But New Yorkers, too, took to the streets right in the destruction zone to shout out to the world press, by coming into work in unbreathable air: fuck the terrorists, the world financial system will go on.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
One who has the respect of the international community? Or just one who was elected by a majority of the people?

"Nuanced", and for sale, I guess.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Islamic UN delegation objects to UN adminstrative plan to provide employee benfits to same sex partners:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...c_partnerships



Taking the thought that maybe I'm too tunnel visioned, I tried to think about this like GGG, then I had an epihany:

Maybe Bush's no gay marriage thing was to appease Al queda!

Far fetched? Well just keep in mind, Bush pretty much on his own got rid of the UN sanctions against Iraq.

Well, I wonder what your erstwhile ally Not Me will think about this? After all, a.Q. is full of polygamists!

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Well, I wonder what your erstwhile ally Not Me will think about this? After all, a.Q. is full of polygamists!

In addition to being evil, AQ is hypocritical, too.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Well, I wonder what your erstwhile ally Not Me will think about this? After all, a.Q. is full of polygamists!

There's a sheep-and-camels joke here somewhere, but we've, sadly, lost the best contributors for that sort of thing.

[bilmore]

We don't get too much news about this, but it sounds like a full-blown revolution has started:

http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1424

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Yeah, but I, too, was "demonstrating in the streets" by having my ass at the office the first day the market reopened and G let civies back into the area where my office is, a few blocks away. Not much work was getting done other than calling clients and letting them know we were alive and had electricity, and finding out if they were alive and had electricity, and there was much drinking at lunch and at 5 pm sharp (though as I recall, you and I and some other GA hangers-on had a pretty tough time even finding a bar that was OPEN down here in which to get drunk that first day NYC was open below Canal street). But New Yorkers, too, took to the streets right in the destruction zone to shout out to the world press, by coming into work in unbreathable air: fuck the terrorists, the world financial system will go on.

So does it seem at all strange to you that the Spanish would take to the streets? That was the question raised that I was responding to.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So does it seem at all strange to you that the Spanish would take to the streets? That was the question raised that I was responding to.

They were "protesting" violence. They were marching to stop violence. They had their hands in the air. How effective! I'm certain the Islamicists will listen and take heed.

Here, it was more of a memorium. There, it's a protest. Simply saying "take to the streets" without examining why is too simple. In both Spain and the U.S., people were breathing and riding bikes the day after, too.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by bilmore
We don't get too much news about this, but it sounds like a full-blown revolution has started:

http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1424

Wow. That would be interesting indeed. How did you come across this? I don't think I've seen any other mention of Iran, but maybe it was drowned out by the Spanish situation...

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
They were "protesting" violence. They were marching to stop violence. They had their hands in the air. How effective! I'm certain the Islamicists will listen and take heed.

Why impugne them for expressing themselves and their grief their way? That little "how effective" is exactly what I meant. Why not have some respect for the loss that has just been suffered?

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So does it seem at all strange to you that the Spanish would take to the streets? That was the question raised that I was responding to.

No, nor, unfortunately, does the ousting of the incumbent gov't. (I am baffled by why they would come out with their hands up, but I just assume that Spanish police order criminals to surrender with their hands in their pockets or something.)

But it is a shame that the election results boost al Qaeda's position by handing them (at least the appearance of having) some degree of power over and influence in the internal politics of coalition nations. Al Qaeda has needed desperately for a couple of years to prove to the Islamic world that it remains operationally effective and can take actions that effectively challenge and damage western nations and western governments. The bomb would have accomplished the first, but the toppling of a western gov't largely as a result of their attack accomplished the second, and hugely magnifies the effectiveness of the attack from an "al Q's image in the Islamic world" p.o.v.