Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You think I didn't catch the reference? Egad.

But are you saying that Bush is the first president to centralize policy (or non-policy--Hi, Ty!) in the way that he has? I don't really get it. Bush has a policy re global warming and the environment. It may be a sucky policy, but he has it. Why should government entities be coming out with reports that undermine those policy positions and goals?

The changes he made do not have appeared to have inserted psuedo-science in place of science. Rather they seemed geared primarily to tone, such as the degree of support. And they were *draft* reports. I suppose the white house could have no role, but if it has a role, why is this sort of editing not appropriate?

I guess it depends on whether it's being spun (I mean, offered) as a neutral presentation of data by serious scientists, or whether it's at least somewhat clear that what the scientists have written has been edited by non-science people. Also, who is supposedly the author of the reports? If it is the actual scientists, do they have veto power over the changes that are made by the policy people?

The shock over ties between drug companies and people running studies on the drugs they market -- and even more shock over the fact that unfavorable studies are not published -- suggests that generally people think scientists tell the truth as they see it.

Great. Now I'm starting to think the "people are basically good" thing is a load of crap.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You think I didn't catch the reference? Egad.

Sometimes I fear I am too subtle. I hear that criticism a lot. It stings.

But are you saying that Bush is the first president to centralize policy (or non-policy--Hi, Ty!) in the way that he has? I don't really get it. Bush has a policy re global warming and the environment. It may be a sucky policy, but he has it. Why should government entities be coming out with reports that undermine those policy positions and goals?

No, I am not saying that Bush is the first president to centralize policy. He may do it more forcefully or thoroughly than any recent predecessors, but that is not relevant.

Yes, I am saying that scientific reports, like intelligence assessements, should be based on science (or intelligence) -- and not tailored to fit policy. Otherwise, it's not science. It's a policy argument presented in the guise of science.

These were not policy statements. They were (purportedly) reports of scientific inquiries and studies.

The changes he made do not have appeared to have inserted psuedo-science in place of science. Rather they seemed geared primarily to tone, such as the degree of support. And they were *draft* reports. I suppose the white house could have no role, but if it has a role, why is this sort of editing not appropriate?

I disagree with your view of the nature and purpose of the changes. I don't think they went merely to "tone", but rather to content, including entire paragraphs cut.

[Valentine]

GO BACK TO INFIRM WITH THE SHITTEY SPAM, U DOUCHEBAG!

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Valentine
Last edited by Penske_Account on 06-08-2005 at 08:31 PM

Hunh. Interesting feature of the site.

[chad87655]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Hunh. Interesting feature of the site.

Again.....................sad. The faux intellectual liberal brain trust here has again demonstrated that they are bankrupt. Much like their ideolgical idols, Marx, Lenin, Castro and bin Laden.....

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Anyway, I'm just responding because I can't stand these online gaming geeks not taking it to the gadgets board. Or the nerds board.

I don't play Civ online. Anyway, you should pay attention. Everything this administration knows about running a country it learned from playing Civ. Or that's the way it seems.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Everything this administration knows about running a country it learned from playing Civ. Or that's the way it seems.

do you know of a page with the Cheats listed?



I love the Ages of empire cheat where you can get race cars with machine guns. That shit equalizes out some mongolian cavalry, let me tell you.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I don't play Civ online.

Thanks for bringing the "online" part of the comment to my attention. I hadn't noticed it, and it offends me. I play with myself, thank you very much. No Civ with online riffraff. I have standards!!!

[captain marvelous]

Admins, Don't forget to delete these too (the human reality over there that our so called free press won't show ) :

http://www.bushflash.com/y2.html

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http://www.bushflash.com/antiwar2.html

http://www.bushflash.com/liberation.html

http://www.bushflash.com/strangelove.html

http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html

http://www.bushflash.com/occupied.html

THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by captain marvelous
Admins, Don't forget to delete these too (the human reality over there that our so called free press won't show ) :

http://www.bushflash.com/y2.html

===================================

http://www.bushflash.com/antiwar2.html

http://www.bushflash.com/liberation.html

http://www.bushflash.com/strangelove.html

http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html

http://www.bushflash.com/occupied.html

THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL!

Questions:

What kind of Tax structure should we set up in Iraq?

Should foreign nationals be incarcerated in Iraq for stealing sundry items (ie cigarettes, socks, etc.)?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Questions:

What kind of Tax structure should we set up in Iraq?

Should foreign nationals be incarcerated in Iraq for stealing sundry items (ie cigarettes, socks, etc.)?

Why are we setting up a tax structure in a foreign country?

Do natives/citizens get incarcerated for that kind of stuff?

[Someone's Evil Twin]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

Should foreign nationals be incarcerated in Iraq for stealing socks?

Straight to Gitmo for you, boy, if you've been stealing any socks. It's against the TOU.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Why are we setting up a tax structure in a foreign country?

Do natives/citizens get incarcerated for that kind of stuff?

dear, we all expect GGG's socks to whiff like mad (i have a continuing whiffTM on him!) but we expect you to be quicker than this.

[Sidd Finch]

According to CNN, the soon-to-be-published book discusses Helms' friendship with Bono (!), among others, which changed his views about AIDS.

"Until then," Helms writes, "it had been my feeling that AIDS was a disease largely spread by reckless and voluntary sexual and drug-abusing behavior, and that it would probably be confined to those in high risk populations. I was wrong."

Remarkable. I guess no one is entirely beyond redemption.


On the other hand....

Helms, 83, was one of the state's leading voices of segregation as a TV commentator in Raleigh in the 1960s and opposed nearly every civil rights bill while in the Senate. He has never retracted his views on race or said segregation was wrong.

In the book, Helms suggests he believed voluntary racial integration would come about without pressure from the federal government or from civil rights protests that he said sharpened racial antagonisms.

I guess those uppity niggras should have just been more patient. They'd probably be allowed in most of our schools by now.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by chad87655
Again.....................sad.

Hey, thanks for remembering.