GO ABBA GO!!!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I did interval training yesterday. I was given a range of heart rate zones from 55-90 percent based on rough estimates of my age, resting heart rate, and max heart rate. Using your calculation, I came nowhere near what my target rates were yesterday. Just way off. I wish I had used your calculation, because the interval training nearly made me puke with the numbers I was given. Using your numbers, I could have had a beer.

I'm not sure if you typed this not having read burger's post where he mentions that an athletic person would need to adjust the numbers, or whether you were trying to impress people into making the leap to assuming you must be athletic.

The problem with either interpretation is that he then makes the statement that anyone who is athletic isn't needing instruction on how to calculate a target heart rate. Another problem is that intervals are, by definition, intended to take one beyond what should be a steady state heart rate, ie you should spike high during intervals.

So what I take from your post is that you are athletic, on the internet.

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I'm really curious about these BodyBugg things that the contestants on The Biggest Loser are wearing.

http://www.bodybugg.com/index.php

I love love love my heart rate monitor when I work out. I wonder if wearing something like this would be a further incentive.

They cost more than the Pilates class.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Just as a caution, calorie calculators are averages both on the consumption side and on the burning side. Even accounting for body weight and heart rate, they tend not to be specific to any one individiual.

Some people are much more efficient at absorbing food than others, which means that their bodies will take 120 calories out of one of those 100 calorie snack packs. Other people's bodies will only absorb 80 calories out of the same snack pack.

On the other end, especially at rest, people's metabolisms are different and the same exertion will end up burning a different number of calories depending on the person. Also, metabolism tends to change over time, depending on frequency of activity, body weight, body fat percentage, hormones, and all sorts of other crap.

another problem is that if you drink lots it's hard to remember what all you take in calories-wise.

[sunnybunny]

So, someone I know well's father's wife's mother died. I recall she doesn't go by the husband's last name, but I can't recall her last name. I tried to be sneaky and look it up online, but it appears that she must legally have the same last name, at least for purposes of the house. I'm too embarassed to admit that I've forgotten her last name, or at least the one she goes by.

Do I:

not send a card
send a card with the last name she doesn't use that may or may not be her legal name.
be completely crass and ask what her last name is

Thanks

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by sunnybunny
So, someone I know well's father's wife's mother died. I recall she doesn't go by the husband's last name, but I can't recall her last name. I tried to be sneaky and look it up online, but it appears that she must legally have the same last name, at least for purposes of the house. I'm too embarassed to admit that I've forgotten her last name, or at least the one she goes by.

Do I:

not send a card
send a card with the last name she doesn't use that may or may not be her legal name.
be completely crass and ask what her last name is

Thanks

Call and ask for the address. Then ask her to spell her last name, so that you get it right.

eta: You obviously don't know her that well.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by Anne Elk
They cost more than the Pilates class.

Yeah, I saw that. I still find myself intrigued.

I may request one as a gift.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Call and ask for the address. Then ask her to spell her last name, so that you get it right.

eta: You obviously don't know her that well.

I can't figure out whether she's sending it to her friend's stepmother, or her friend. If her friend, yeah, she doesn't actually know her. If it's the friend's stepmother, use the husband's last name, for chrissakes. She's going to be bemused by receipt of a card from someone she hardly knows in any case. ETA so having the wrong last name on it might just provide a moment of comic relief.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I'm not sure if you typed this not having read burger's post where he mentions that an athletic person would need to adjust the numbers, or whether you were trying to impress people into making the leap to assuming you must be athletic.

The problem with either interpretation is that he then makes the statement that anyone who is athletic isn't needing instruction on how to calculate a target heart rate. Another problem is that intervals are, by definition, intended to take one beyond what should be a steady state heart rate, ie you should spike high during intervals.

So what I take from your post is that you are athletic, on the internet.

No, on the internet I am a lawyer who engages in some athletic pursuits for fun. I think that regardless of whether you are "athletic," you are better off using the formulas below:

Max Heart Rate:

Males:
210 - 1/2 your age - 1% of your total body weight + 4 = Predicted Maximum Heart Rate

Females:
210 - 1/2 your age - 1% of your total body weight + 0 = Predicted Maximum Heart Rate

Karvonen Formula

A very effective method of calculating your zones is by the Karvonen Formula. This formula takes into account your resting heart rate (RHR). Knowing your resting heart rate helps you to determine your Heart Rate Reserve (HRR) or working Heart Rate. Heart Rate Reserve (HRR) or working Heart Rate the difference between the Maximum Heart Rate (MHR) and Resting Heatt Rate (RHR). The greater the difference of your MHR and your RHR the greater your HHR or WHR. This is important because this tells you how great your heart rate intensities can be.

The best way to measure your resting heart rate (RHR) is when you first wake up in the morning and before you get out of bed. Simply count your pulse for 15 seconds beginning on the zero count and multiply by 4. You can do this for 5 days and then average the results. This is your resting heart rate. Keep in mind that lack of proper rest, stress and lack of proper nutrition, and medication can influence your RHR. One sign of over-training is an elevated RHR. By becoming aware of your RHR you can more closely become in-tuned with with how your body is reacting to different stimulus.

You will also notice that using the Karvonen Formula the percentages of MHR will be higher. This is because this method indicates more closely your actual VO2 Max. VO2 Max or Maximal Oxygen Consumption is the total capacity to consume oxygen at the cellular level. This represents the total maximum aerobic capacity of the muscle cells.

MHR - RHR = _____ x % = _____ + RHR = Karvonen Formula

For Example: MHR = 180. RHR = 60

180 - 60 = 120 x 70% = 84 + 60 = 144 bpm


180 - 60 = 120 x 50% = 60 + 60 (RHR) = 120 bpm (50%)
180 - 60 = 120 x 60% = 72 + 60 (RHR) = 132 bpm (60%)
180 - 60 = 120 x 70% = 84 + 60 (RHR) = 144 bpm (70%)
180 - 60 = 120 x 80% = 96 + 60 (RHR) = 156 bpm (80%)
180 - 60 = 120 x 90% = 108 + 60 (RHR) = 168 bpm (90%)

http://www.fitzones.com/members/Fitn...rate_zones.asp

Using these formulas. my zones are:

1: 122-136
2: 136-150
3. 150-164
4. 164-178
5. 178-192

Those may be a little bit high, but using Burger's formula, I barely get out of Zone 2 even at the top end of the 50-85% range.

[Flinty_McFlint]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
what language is required knowledge for any desk clerk at a Hong Kong tourist hotel?

English, duh. Many speak that too in Hong Kong, you know, having been a colony and all. Just stick to Beijing and use your xie xie there.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Knowing your resting heart rate

everyone should know their normal RHR. Knowing it provides good bio-feedback of how you are doing at any point (non-exercising point). Mine is 60. If I see it is 80 at some point I know to take a deep breath and try to relax. (again, not while exercising)

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
All sorts of heart rate crap

Most people who select walking* as their workout of choice have no need for this information.

*There is nothing wrong with walking, but unless you have a heart problem or some other physical problem, you are not going to overexert yourself walking. Especially if you are going over your lunch hour.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Most people who select walking* as their workout of choice have no need for this information.

*There is nothing wrong with walking, but unless you have a heart problem or some other physical problem, you are not going to overexert yourself walking. Especially if you are going over your lunch hour.

2, but I think Flower is trying to get into bnb's pants. Or wherever.

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
everyone should know their normal RHR. Knowing it provides good bio-feedback of how you are doing at any point (non-exercising point). Mine is 60. If I see it is 80 at some point I know to take a deep breath and try to relax. (again, not while exercising)

I think for some people knowing exactly how far they ran, or exactly how many calories they burned, or exactly how high their heart rate was is very interesting. It is not, however, necessary to reach a weight loss goal.

I work out hard every day, and have for more than 15 years. Two hours (cardio and weights) every day, and more on the weekends. I have absolutely no idea what my heart rate is.

[John Phoenix]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Max Heart Rate:

Males:
210 - 1/2 your age - 1% of your total body weight + 4 = Predicted Maximum Heart Rate

Karvonen Formula

The first formula put my max at 195, the number my wife suggested I use as the alarm zone on my HRM. (I had been using 200.) That calculation is not bad, certainly a better number than the 220 - [age] figure. When I jog (outside or on the treadmill), I'm usually in the high 180s or low 190s after the first few minutes. Biking usually puts me in the 170s to 180s, unless I'm on a really steep hill.

[patentparanyc]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I think for some people knowing exactly how far they ran, or exactly how many calories they burned, or exactly how high their heart rate was is very interesting. It is not, however, necessary to reach a weight loss goal.

I work out hard every day, and have for more than 15 years. Two hours (cardio and weights) every day, and more on the weekends. I have absolutely no idea what my heart rate is.

People like Gary Taubes have questioned the essential quality of the workout, but I agree with you. There are two things that most of my thin co workers share. They very carefully watch what they eat and they work out.

When the clocks fall back I'd be interested in running in the morning. It is currently really dark right now....so lunch it is.