Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Towels, Hank? We Americans sure have some hil-AR-i-ous jokes about foreigners.

i was being stupid on purpose. I was afraid I was too reasonable today.

and come to think of it, you've picked 10 people you think will die this year, and you think i'm being rude. let he who is without sin cast the first stone Atticus.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Obtuse indeed, since girls go to schools in most Islam[ic]/[ist] countries. Except Afghanistan 1996-2001, I'm unable to think of one in which the official policy is not to educate girls in schools --- although that may well be the effect of the latest French action.

Towels, Hank? We Americans sure have some hil-AR-i-ous jokes about foreigners.

Number of madrasas in Pakistan/Afghanistan/Iran:
10,000+

Number of girls attending same:
0

Chance to see Atticus claim that Islamicism is gender-neutral:
Priceless

I fully expect NOW to begin defending the madrasas, as a valid and societally-based educational system that (just incidentally) makes it a bit harder for girls to succeed.

It's good for them, after all, as it makes them have to work a bit harder.

(Having given in to the idea that bosses can procure sex from underling women without stain, at least when it serves their party, this is the next logical step, right?)

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
You do realize that this paragraph is completely internally inconsistent?
S_A_M

no

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And I'm sure these "protests" will encourage a second round of bombing. And my guess is Italy.

agreed

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by bilmore
Number of madrasas in Pakistan/Afghanistan/Iran:
10,000+

Number of girls attending same:
0

Chance to see Atticus claim that Islamicism is gender-neutral:
Priceless

I fully expect NOW to begin defending the madrasas, as a valid and societally-based educational system that (just incidentally) makes it a bit harder for girls to succeed.

It's good for them, after all, as it makes them have to work a bit harder.

(Having given in to the idea that bosses can procure sex from underling women without stain, at least when it serves their party, this is the next logical step, right?)

I just googled egypt/girl/schools and got tons of articles, but the ones I read could be taken as "poor keep girls out of school" so i appreciate you're facts.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I just googled egypt/girl/schools and got tons of articles, but the ones I read could be taken as "poor keep girls out of school" so i appreciate you're facts.

We've reached a watershed in political argumentation here. We've seen Atticus attempt to convince that the Islamicist policy towards gender roles is entirely exemplary in an attempt to bolster his point. We've heard Ty say, repeatedly, that "we've already established, beyond doubt" that the earth is flat, as his means of proving that the earth is flat. We've watched Kerry say that he is for, and against, everything one might imagine, but only at the right times, and in the correct circumstances, and we should only ask him about them the next day.

It's going to be an interesting campaign.

[sgtclub]

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/CA404065.htm

[says "nigger" not indecent]

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by bilmore
We've reached a watershed in political argumentation here. We've seen Atticus attempt to convince that the Islamicist policy towards gender roles is entirely exemplary in an attempt to bolster his point. We've heard Ty say, repeatedly, that "we've already established, beyond doubt" that the earth is flat, as his means of proving that the earth is flat. We've watched Kerry say that he is for, and against, everything one might imagine, but only at the right times, and in the correct circumstances, and we should only ask him about them the next day.

It's going to be an interesting campaign.

Atticus was mad because I made a racist joke. he's come to expect more from me. and I shouldn't have done it. I now promise him i will handle this campaign from the high ground, not from the mud- i do reserve the right to do Gilligan posts, however.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
You do realize that the reason Bush wants Kerry to list them, is because its countries we either hate, or at best could give a fuck about. Kerry listing France. n. korea, Iranistan , etc, will help Bush. See?
22-3.

With the PP losing in Spain, the list of Bush's supporters doesn't go much farther than Poland and Albania. Oh yeah, and Uzbekistan.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
We've heard Ty say, repeatedly, that "we've already established, beyond doubt" that the earth is flat, as his means of proving that the earth is flat.

Then Donald Rumsfeld arguing that the earth is flat, and that he never said it was round. Perhaps you should arrange to get more recent versions of the talking points.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Someone tell Colin Powell what's been happening to him for the last three years.

[A] couple days ago, Colin Powell challenged John Kerry to come forward with the names of some of the foreign leaders who he says want President Bush turned out of office.

"If he feels it is that important an assertion to make, he ought to list some names. If he can't list names, then perhaps he should find something else to talk about."

After that he apparently upped the ante, denying Kerry's claims that he, Powell, had been undermined or sidelined in administration foreign policy debates.

"Name a specific issue," said Powell, "where it looks like I have been marginalized."

linky

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
Number of madrasas in Pakistan/Afghanistan/Iran:
10,000+

Number of girls attending same:
0

Chance to see Atticus claim that Islamicism is gender-neutral:
Priceless

You're dangerously underinformed, or intentionally trying to mislead the board into thinking that means the girls aren't going to school. Looking for girls in a madrassa, which is a school for clerical education in the mosque for those of you keeping score at home, is like looking for women in a Catholic seminary. Except there exist countries in the world that do allow girls into madrassas, while the number of nations with Catholic seminaries admitting women holds steady at zero. That's how you wind up with fun, punk-ass rhetorical absolutes like "zero." The correct answer is "No girls in Iranian, Pakistani, and Afghani madrassas? So what? How many are in school?"

Girls enrolled in primary school, expressed as a percentage of the total number of pupils in primary school, for Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the U.S., according to UNESCO.

I stand by my statement that most Islamic countries make provision for the education of girls. The straw man you have waiting for me will just have to wait; Islam is not "gender neutral," nor is any society I've yet seen.

Bilmore, tell me I'm whiffing, because you really can't be that much of a misinformed ass.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I stand by my statement that most Islamic countries make provision for the education of girls. The straw man you have waiting for me will just have to wait; Islam is not "gender neutral," nor is any society I've yet seen.

The straw man was of your own making. the original statement was AQ- as evidenced by the Taliban- would not let girls into school. How you dragged that into all countries with majority Islamic populations is beyond me. My high school played Dearborn High School in girl's basketball. The team had several Arab American players. The girls wore shorts, right there in public. No one said anything to imply that Islamic people, or Arabs do not allow girls to attend school.

And while I'm on this clean up kick, Ty you should quit saying "linky." Just sat "link." Linky was/is funny when used to shoot down an incorrect argument, (now listen) when you are linking to an unquestionably sound source. Think "how many PT boats were sunk in WWII." It was funny because of the tongue in cheek style, when you could otherwise have gloated. It is not appropriate when used to link to one of your blogs or pieces of questionable support for your strained theories.

Thank you all.

[Hank Chinaski]

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040317_240.html

Former Kennedy Relative Found Dead
Body of Former Relative of Kennedys Found in Sunken Car in Fla., No Foul Play Suspected

VERO BEACH, Fla. March 17 — The body of a local socialite once related by marriage to the Kennedy family was found in a sunken car, authorities said.
Police do not suspect foul play in the death of 65-year-old Hope Sheridan, who was last seen March 8. Family members in Windham, N.Y., reported her missing on March 11.

Sheridan is the ex-mother-in-law of Michael Skakel, a cousin of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Skakel, 42, is serving 20 years to life in prison for the beating death of his Greenwich, Conn., neighbor, Martha Moxley, in 1975.

Divers found Sheridan's car Monday afternoon after a sheriff's helicopter noted two faint parallel marks at the end of a retention pond.

The car was submerged in about 15 feet of water 75 feet from shore. Sheridan's body was found on the passenger side, Detective Keith Harmon said. He said there were no skid marks on the grassy area going into the water.

"It appears from the preliminary findings that this was an accidental death," said Indian River County sheriff's spokesman Joe Flescher said.

Investigators were awaiting the results of a medical examiner's toxicology tests.

She was in the passenger's seat, I know that's normal for a Kennedy related drowning, but it's still evidence of someone else driving. That's "foul play," isn't it?

And how does a car get 75 feet from shore "accidentally?"

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I stand by my statement that most Islamic countries make provision for the education of girls. The straw man you have waiting for me will just have to wait; Islam is not "gender neutral," nor is any society I've yet seen.

Bilmore, tell me I'm whiffing, because you really can't be that much of a misinformed ass.

Such langauge.

Islamicism, not Islam. Madrasas, not schools. Words have meaning. Mine, and Hanks. Most Islamics were not thrilled with 9/11. Most Islamicists were.