Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[bilmore]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I'm curious as to how this suggests I in any way have a TV centric life.

Because you imply that, when the show that you wanted to watch isn't on, you watch what is on.

I know what they say about assumptions: when they are made on an informed basis, they are often correct.

Keep in mind that my threshhold for "TV-centric" is exceedingly low. King of the Hill is starting, so I'm going to turn my set on now.

(Oh, and, sorry about that list thingie. )

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by bilmore
Because you imply that, when the show that you wanted to watch isn't on, you watch what is on.

I know what they say about assumptions: when they are made on an informed basis, they are often correct.

Keep in mind that my threshhold for "TV-centric" is exceedingly low. King of the Hill is starting, so I'm going to turn my set on now.

(Oh, and, sorry about that list thingie. )

To make an assumption on an informed basis, one needs to be informed.

And no worries bout the list thingy. I'll take you kayaking next time you are in my neck of the woods I don't have the inflatable one any more either, so no sinking. One hopes.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by purse junkie
"Bitch" is always sexist and I hardly ever use it.

Except, oddly, when it's used as a verb.

T. (apologies if someone already said this) S.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Except, oddly, when it's used as a verb.

You mean "to nag shrewishly, as by a harpy"? Sounds neutral to me.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Bullshit. "Bitch" is the female equivalent of "asshole." Everyone who has said they call women "assholes" here today is most likely full of shit. Some words fit better with men. Some with women. While I'm not denying that "bitch" is certainly female specific and asshole could be (in theory) used on women, they both mean the same thing for different genders in most cases.

When I call a piece of shit female partner a "bitch" under my breath as I walk away, it is no different than when I label a piece of shit male partner, "asshole." I think most people use those words this way.

If you really feel the need to be careful about being sexist, just use "dumbass" or "piece of shit." Those work wonderfully on men and women.

Thurgreed("bitchy," on the other hand, is almost always sexist)Marshall

"Bitch" is also the female equivalent of "dick". You can't call a chick a dick - that's undisputably an exclusively male insult. Yet calling her a cunt for the sort of behavior that would incite you to call her a bitch would be overkill.

I have always found certain prissy chicks' disgust with the word cunt to be pretty damn hypocritical and hypersensitive. Use of the slang term for male genitalia as an insult is widely accepted. Never in history has a man stalked away from a conversation stating "I hate the word 'dick' - it disgusts me". Yet some women seem to think they have a right to be appalled at the use of cunt, like its somehow worse than dick. Seems to me that the two words are absolutely equal in their potential offensiveness, so why is one villified while the other is used on television?

I think the hypersensitivity toward cunt is sexist - it implies that women are somehow less able to handle the use of a common slang term.

S(if all the double standards in our culture were bricks, we could build a Maginot Line from Grand Central to the St. Louis Arch)D

[purse junkie]

Sport coat w/ t-shirt leads to outrage in S. Korea parliament:

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/120/..._seeks_:.shtml

And I defend my dislike of "cunt" vs. "dick." The only way to really demean a guy on the basis of his sexuality is to imply that he's not masculine enough--that he's feminine or gay ("pussy", "fag"). "Cunt" and "slut" demean a woman because she's sexual and female--quite different. It's not a question of delicacy--I can swear like a sailor--it's a question of a woman being sexual itself being a negative.

"Dick" is too casual to compare to "cunt"--different levels of insult.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by purse junkie
"Bitch" is always sexist and I hardly ever use it. Used against a man, it's a negative implication that the guy is like a woman--horrors! Used against a woman, it's almost always a punishment for someone who steps out of her proper place.

"C--t" is even worse and I never, ever, ever use it except about...well, she knows who she is.

My college roommate had a habit of yelling "TWAT!" at the top of her lungs. This was disconcerting to those who thought that (1) it was unnecessary at a women's college to announce that you had one or (2) that it was an insult directed at someone specific or (3) that it was a request for some action from anyone in hearing distance.

"Asshole" I always thought of as gender-neutral. Right now though I prefer "skank."

"Twat" - that's a wierd one. I don't like it - it has a lousy sound. Its also one of those low end names that you'll hear from some creepy dude watching television inside a gas station (not the gas station attendant, the creepy mulleted cat who just hangs out ther smoking butts in Thin Lizzy concert t shirt). The worst of thess low end ghenital names is "snatch" - that one seems to only come from, dirty old men. Another is "gash" - that one comes from angry fraternity guys who just "got the Heisman" from a chick (got her back to the room, but she wouldn't fuck).

My favorite female pseudo-cuss word is "cooter". I heard a friend use the term to refer to female genitalia a few years back and thought it was hysterical - very rural, silly and harmless. He started using it among our female friends and now they all refer to their own genitalia as "cooters".

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Sex toys are still illegal in Alabama.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Sex toys are still illegal in Alabama.

That's going to make for a lot of unhappy cooters.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Sport coat w/ t-shirt leads to outrage in S. Korea parliament:

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/120/..._seeks_:.shtml

And I defend my dislike of "cunt" vs. "dick." The only way to really demean a guy on the basis of his sexuality is to imply that he's not masculine enough--that he's feminine or gay ("pussy", "fag"). "Cunt" and "slut" demean a woman because she's sexual and female--quite different. It's not a question of delicacy--I can swear like a sailor--it's a question of a woman being sexual itself being a negative.

"Dick" is too casual to compare to "cunt"--different levels of insult.

Does anyone know chicks who shorten words because they think it sounds cool? My wife has some friends who like to cut pieces off words during conversations and it drives me up a wall. For example, they'll say "Mary and I had a convo the other day" meaning "Mary and I had a conversation the other day". Another I heard was the use of the term "vag" for vagina - they seem to think that sounds cute. The worst is when they shorten "whatever" to "whatev" - I can barely hold my tongue when they speak like that to me. I really feel the need to say "Your slang makes you sound like you're challenged, my dear... its not cute". Just an FYI - if you do this word shortening thing, people probably ask each other what the hell is the matter with you behind your back.

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I have always found certain prissy chicks' disgust with the word cunt to be pretty damn hypocritical and hypersensitive. Use of the slang term for male genitalia as an insult is widely accepted. Never in history has a man stalked away from a conversation stating "I hate the word 'dick' - it disgusts me". Yet some women seem to think they have a right to be appalled at the use of cunt, like its somehow worse than dick. Seems to me that the two words are absolutely equal in their potential offensiveness, so why is one villified while the other is used on television?

I think the hypersensitivity toward cunt is sexist - it implies that women are somehow less able to handle the use of a common slang term.

I don't think our dislike is hypocritical or hypersensitive. Unless you are a woman you don't understand the daily battle we wage in being accepted for who we are, NOT what we look like or what sort of recreation we can provide. The c-word implies that I am nothing better than a receptacle for sperm.

It's like walking past the construction site and being sexually harassed. Although I must say the guys on the Big Dig don't really do it anymore. It's the crowd at the train station that's really bad. The nice weather comes and I have to take the train one stop farther in order to not to be harassed on the way home,

[ms. naughty diplomat]

Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Sex toys are still illegal in Alabama.

hmm, i can see someone now "but, officer, it really is a massager for my back, honest"

are those vibrating harry potter brooms included in the ban?

one more reason to avoid the state of alabama i guess. at times i wonder if there is a contest between alabama and mississippi to see which state's legislature or voters can do the most idiotic things possible.

ms. naughty diplomat

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Does anyone know chicks who shorten words because they think it sounds cool? My wife has some friends who like to cut pieces off words during conversations and it drives me up a wall. For example, they'll say "Mary and I had a convo the other day" meaning "Mary and I had a conversation the other day". Another I heard was the use of the term "vag" for vagina - they seem to think that sounds cute. The worst is when they shorten "whatever" to "whatev" - I can barely hold my tongue when they speak like that to me. I really feel the need to say "Your slang makes you sound like you're challenged, my dear... its not cute". Just an FYI - if you do this word shortening thing, people probably ask each other what the hell is the matter with you behind your back.

No. But I do remember wanting to beat the crap out of everyone who said "conversate" when it was in common use several years ago.

p(Monie Love, how could you?)j

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by purse junkie

"Cunt" and "slut" demean a woman because she's sexual and female--quite different. It's not a question of delicacy--I can swear like a sailor--it's a question of a woman being sexual itself being a negative.

"Dick" is too casual to compare to "cunt"--different levels of insult.

This makes me think of something that was the topic of a recent discussion. I don't know how it didn't make my radar before (probably because I've never heard occasion of it actually being used), but a woman can sue for defamation on the basis of a lack of "chastity", but a man can't. I assume from your comments that you think that is an appropriate double-standard?

Have you ever heard of someone actually suing for that reason?

PJ -- just to be clear, I'm not challenging your position on the subject, I'd just like to hear your opinion on it.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Does anyone know chicks who shorten words because they think it sounds cool?..."Mary and I had a convo the other day" meaning "Mary and I had a conversation the other day". Another I heard was the use of the term "vag" for vagina - they seem to think that sounds cute. The worst is when they shorten "whatever" to "whatev"

God no. That's stup.