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Old 09-06-2005, 06:16 PM   #3796
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I agree. The locals really shit the bed. They were the first line of help here, and they weren’t just bad... they weren’t even there. I see an equal apportionment of liability here - the state, fed and the people themselves each get 1/3 responsibility.*

But thats hardly revelatory - I think everyone agrees no one party is at fault for all of this mess. Like any disaster, there are a million variables that all hit at the wrong time.

Thats why I see no sense in laying blame. Better to do wwhat you're doing - sheltering a poor homeless kid.

* The infirm who couldn’t get out don’t bear any responsibility.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:19 PM   #3797
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Exactly, its my fault. Don;t take any responsibility for your shitty comments. Go back and read what you wrote and you should be able to figure it out, or if you are not responsible enough to take responsibility for the juvenile and stupid shite you write then you can go fuck yourself.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:19 PM   #3798
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Oh, go fuck yourself. Your charitable contributions have nothing to do with this debate, I don't recall the conversation, and I read only about 1 in 20 of your posts.

I don't know why you and Hank hate this board so much that you are going to such lengths to ruin it, but chalk up another mini-victory.
Cite please. I've been good for weeks now.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:24 PM   #3799
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The feds are responsible, the state and local, we are looking into it.
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If you choose to do what can only be called paraphrasing at its most charitable, please bracket it. Otherwise people might get pissed at you for badly mischaracterizing what they took time to write, and stop taking you seriously at all.


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Again you qualify the one and unqualifiedly critisise the other.
Good lord. I offered to have them shot.

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You stick your hand in the sand as to info regarding state and local that has been out there for a week and claim, we are just finding out about it, which is nonsense.
You should read what I wrote.

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As soon as the Feds didn't solve the problem you were all over Bush without an iota of benefit of the doubt or looking at the totality of the circumstances.
You're right. For example, on second thought, I should've realized that the Arabian horse trader-cum-director of FEMA should be given some latitude with the facts on the ground reported by every fucking news outlet on the planet 24 hours prior.

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And you still refuse to explain how the first responders are less responsible than the Feds and specifically how the local is not so much more at fault for the failure to implement a plan that existed that set the Feds up to come into a situation which was a disaster to start with.
Nice compound sentence, but it lacks ..... something. We need to transmogrify this point into something larger, something that fits with our larger worldview. Something .. Bushian. Can we work in something dimocratic? Something -- dare I say it? -- with national electoral consequences?


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Citing Ty and Not Bob et al does not make it anymore convincing. Every liberal I meet or know has their heads as far in the sand as y'all. And none of you can figure out how a coutnry would vote for Bush. Twice. Surprise surprise.
Attaboy. Blast off! Wheeeeeeee!
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:28 PM   #3800
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the hypocracy of the left

Things I love about the left:

-Senator Landrieu publicly physically threatens the President of the United States, in violation of a federal statute, and no one from the left side of the spectrum has even the slightest bit of criticism. Query: If Bush were to hold a news conference and say, "And by the by, if that Mary Landrieu should happen to critisise me again, I am going to beat her chunky arse raw", would the leftists here demonstrate equivalent silence? Ty, Not_Bob, Weed, Gatti???!!?

-Prominent leftist gadfly Allan Dersh-bag-oshitz calls the Chief Justice of the United STates a "thug" on national TV within hours of the Chief's death. No comment from any leftists criticising this as classlessness. If Ruth Bader Ginsburg died and William F. Buckley got on TV and called her a "whore for subversive judicial activism" would the leftists here demonstrate equivalent silence? Ty, Not_Bob, Weed, Gatti???!!?

-going Dersh-bag-oshitz one further:

From yesterday's OpinionJournal Best o the Web

Over at DemocraticUnderground.com (hi Ty!), "Spazito" weighs in with a theory about Chief Justice Rehnquist's death:

Bet he died days ago and they are just announcing it now to try and take the heat off bush [sic]. One man has died, well guess what, thousands have died and more are still dying.

It was inevitable that someone would suggest this eventually. But Spazito did it at 11:10 p.m. EDT last night--four minutes after the announcement that Rehnquist had died!


The left in America truly has no shame.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:29 PM   #3801
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Cite please. I've been good for weeks now.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:31 PM   #3802
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Attaboy. Blast off! Wheeeeeeee!
When you write this do you realize what stark contrast it is to your disbelief in 2000 and 2004 that Bush could win the Presidency. Step back and think objectively how the one relates to the other. At this point I think Cheney could win in 08.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:32 PM   #3803
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I have nothing but praise for Penn. He's gotten off his ass and is trying to make a difference. More than I can say for myself.
Maybe so, but I still don't like his facial hair.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:36 PM   #3804
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Maybe so, but I still don't like his facial hair.
do you like Bork more now that he is clean shaven?
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:37 PM   #3805
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When you write this do you realize what stark contrast it is to your disbelief in 2000 and 2004 that Bush could win the Presidency. Step back and think objectively how the one relates to the other.
Ho hum. What, no bus references?

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At this point I think Cheney could win in 08.
Better. I'm sure his "Trust Us, Us Grownups With the GOP Will Protect You From Harm" mantra will do wonders on the campaign trail.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:37 PM   #3806
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Bush did not ask to federalize all the resources in New York City because the job was getting done. Bush asked to federalize all the resources in NO because the job was not getting done.
Cite, please. What's your basis for saying that was Bush's motive? 'Cause it smells like CYA. Or just tell me, after the hurricane, what is it that you think the state of Louisiana could and should have been doing that it was not doing.
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Old 09-06-2005, 06:39 PM   #3807
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I have asked all of the libs here who defend Nagin and Blanco to explain why 250 plus buses were never put into use to evacuate the populace 48 hours before Katrina. No answer. By your equation the libs are all dumbasses. As we suspected.
I have yet to see anyone on this board defend Nagin or Blanco. So maybe you could point me to those posts.
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I have yet to see anyone on this board defend Nagin or Blanco. So maybe you could point me to those posts.
The qualification of the criticism is a tacit defence.
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Cite, please. What's your basis for saying that was Bush's motive? 'Cause it smells like CYA. Or just tell me, after the hurricane, what is it that you think the state of Louisiana could and should have been doing that it was not doing.
They should have implemented a preparedness plan in the 48 hours prior to the hurricane hitting. If they had the response afterwards would have been of far lesser consequence.
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Ho hum. What, no bus references?



Better. I'm sure his "Trust Us, Us Grownups With the GOP Will Protect You From Harm" mantra will do wonders on the campaign trail.
It worked for Bush in 2004. If he is so incompetent why couldn't the Dems defeat him?
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