Politics: A new beginning

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
"Certainly there's a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda," he said in 2002. "It doesn't surprise me at all that they would be talking to Al Qaeda, that there would be some Al Qaeda there or that Saddam Hussein might even be, you know, discussing gee, I wonder since I don't have any scuds and since the Americans are coming at me, I wonder if I could take advantage of Al Qaeda? How would I do it? Is it worth the risk? What could they do for me?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/12/po...rint&position=

When you try your first fraud case on the defense side, you'll be tempted to put on some great evidence of truthfulness that you found in the plaintiff's document production. Resist the temptation. You will realize too late that the evidence you presented actually proves detrimental reliance, which I need not tell you is part of the plaintiff's case in chief and his burden to prove.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
"Certainly there's a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda," he said in 2002. "It doesn't surprise me at all that they would be talking to Al Qaeda, that there would be some Al Qaeda there or that Saddam Hussein might even be, you know, discussing gee, I wonder since I don't have any scuds and since the Americans are coming at me, I wonder if I could take advantage of Al Qaeda? How would I do it? Is it worth the risk? What could they do for me?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/12/po...rint&position=

In your view, was that enough to warrant invasion of Iraq? Put differently: If we had reason to believe that the same is true of another country, should we be invading that country?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
When you try your first fraud case on the defense side, you'll be tempted to put on some great evidence of truthfulness that you found in the plaintiff's document production. Resist the temptation. You will realize too late that the evidence you presented actually proves detrimental reliance, which I need not tell you is part of the plaintiff's case in chief and his burden to prove.

As usual I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm just a stupid corporate lawyer.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
In your view, was that enough to warrant invasion of Iraq? Put differently: If we had reason to believe that the same is true of another country, should we be invading that country?

I didn't post it for that point, only to point out that the General has been all over the board on this issue, and the Administration isn't the only only one who believes this.

As for your question, the answer is that it depends. Does the country in question have nukes? Is it a democracy? Strategic benefits v. expected costs?

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sgtclub
As usual I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm just a stupid corporate lawyer.

Something to do with why Clark thought that at the time.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sgtclub
As usual I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm just a stupid corporate lawyer.

He's saying Clark got his belief from Bush's lying. But with bigger words.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I didn't post it for that point, only to point out that the General has been all over the board on this issue, and the Administration isn't the only only one who believes this.

The Administration is the only one getting daily briefings from the CIA et al., although when they get too far off the reservation the CIA starts briefing the Washington Post.

As for your question, the answer is that it depends. Does the country in question have nukes? Is it a democracy? Strategic benefits v. expected costs?

Of course it depends, although you seem to be laying the groundwork for an invasion to democratize Pakistan.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
Of course it depends, although you seem to be laying the groundwork for an invasion to democratize Pakistan.

Bush already did that, and we're already in.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

The Labor Department (news - web sites) reported that the US economy generated just 1,000 jobs in December. The report was a shock to economists, who projected average job growth of 148,000 in the month to signal an end to the so-called jobless recovery in the United States.


Additionally, Friday's report by the Labor Department showed job growth in the previous four months was revised lower by a total of 66,000.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...y_040109233037

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...y_040109233037

No worries. President Bush said on Friday that the declining unemployment rate is good news.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...y_040109233037

I assume that's a net number, no?

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I assume that's a net number, no?

I certainly hope so.

[sgtclub]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040112/D801J3781.html

Spree: Investigation launched re O'neil.

Prediction: DEMS will be crying for an independent prosecutor to investigate the investigation before I arrive tomorrow morning.

[sgtclub]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108140,00.html

I must say, this is welcoming news that the ACLU is not completely a partisan institution.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040112/D801J3781.html

Spree: Investigation launched re O'neil.

Prediction: DEMS will be crying for an independent prosecutor to investigate the investigation before I arrive tomorrow morning.

Saw a report tonight that the document in request was released in response to a FOIA request six months ago.

How long did it take to start an investigation after Novak blew Plame's cover? 78 days?