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[rumpelmints]

Originally posted by Spanky
You could have one insane person that could screw the entire community.

Get your facts straight newbee, paigow did not screw the entire community, just slave, once and he wanted for it.

And the politically correct term is "koo koo".

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Larry Summers' problem is that he's smarter than most people, but not smart enough to avoid making clear that this is one of the many things he knows.

He has so much animus against him stored up on the faculty that he was just a bomb waiting for an issue-fuse. They still hate him for Cornell.

[Watchtower]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
IIRC, there were upwards of a dozen "originals" of the Declaration. They were copied out longhand at about the same time from TJ's text (and others inclusing Adams), and sent around to be published in the various colonies. I have a vague notion that several survive.

S_A_M

eta: P.S. You know eminent domain is an interesting issue when Bilmore, club, GGG and I line up more or less on one side, with Spanky and Ty on the other. Burger -- who knows?

Isn't it really a "render unto Cesar" issue?

Freedom is not about property. As long as we receive compensation for property, why shouldn't the government have it? It is only property.

It is only when that property is inextricably intwined with other rights, like freedom of speech, that I would restrict eminent domain. So I would not permit the government to, for example, "purchase" all copies of Ulysses, because it would be a public benefit to burn them.

Haven't see you guys in a while. Have I missed anything interesting?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Delivered to your desk for "evidence" purposes?

And be careful- I knew an alcoholic who bought a beer store and about depleted the inventory in 4 months time.

No. I purchased it, and a glazed donut and and apple fritter last night at a purveyor of donuts. I did not buy the store, though.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Watchtower
Haven't see you guys in a while. Have I missed anything interesting?

Aside from having killed off all of the people who think things like "Freedom is not about property", it's been slow.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
How many have a treasure map on the back?


FWIW, I'm on a substantive politics-post hiatus. Spanky has my proxy.

4 years is long enough. Come back, slave!

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
How come you're not inviting him to the meetings?

Dude, he's holding the Chairman position this month. Chairs don't need invitations.

On the upside, play your cards right and you may start getting the evites again starting in April.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
FWIW, I'm on a substantive politics-post hiatus. Spanky has my proxy.

People have to leave here in shifts. When the imbalance gets too bad, you come back to hot debates about which side of Marx's butt should be kissed first.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I don't subscribe to the PC crap on that, and I'm surprised you do, Mr. Straight Shooter.

Main Entry: 1sex
Pronunciation: 'seks
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin sexus
1 : either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...tionary&va=sex

Although technically correct, the way in which you used it made the sentence ambiguous - the use of "gender" would not have.

So, if property is power, you feel that it's OK to have people start out in life at totally different levels of power, merely because of who their parents are, with no mechanism for redistribution? Perhaps instead of being hopeful, I should become reconciled to the prospect of you being beyond redemption. You should get Slave's horns.

Of course. Unfortunately we are not and never will be equal in all ways. Do you also propose taking parts of my brain and giving them to GGG? Or taking some of Hank's inches and giving them to Sidd?

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by bilmore
People have to leave here in shifts. When the imbalance gets too bad, you come back to hot debates about which side of Marx's butt should be kissed first.

Or Coulter's.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by bilmore
This goes way beyond legal argument into the realm of personal philosophy. For instance, were I not willing to sell my family home in order that the rest of the group of people who have decided to live near me can have a chemical plant, I could never conceive of saying that I was "screwing the community." Maybe I was being unwilling to give up my property in a way that would benefit them, but, they have no vested right to my property. To "screw" someone implies, to me, that I am depriving them of that which is theirs. There's only one screwee in your hypo.

I have a good example. The Stanford Linear Accelerator (SLAC) was built in the the 1960s. It was originally supposed to be 1.6 miles long. They bought he necessary land and built it. After it was built they realized it could only be effective if it was 2.1 miles long. The problem was where it needed to be extended was land owned by a famer who would not sale (land had been in the family forever etc. etc.) Many jobs were on the line (and lots of dinero) so the farm was seized so the Accelerator could be extended. SLAC by the way is a completely private organization. Should the courts have prevented this exercis of eminent domain?

[Watchtower]

Originally posted by bilmore
Aside from having killed off all of the people who think things like "Freedom is not about property", it's been slow.

Look hard at the Constitution. There are specific protections for things like speech, worship, guns, etc., but not for property in general. In the Declaration, "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" replaces the Lockian "Life, Liberty and Property".

Well, now and then, we rise from the dead and return. Sorry to hear it has been slow.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Or taking some of Hank's inches and giving them to Sidd?

Not to be a timmy, but your use of "some" in this sentence is ambiguous. Read too broadly, the sentence would certainly lose its tethering to reality.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by rumpelmints
Get your facts straight newbee, paigow did not screw the entire community, just slave, once and he wanted for it.

And the politically correct term is "koo koo".

I stand corrected

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Of course. Unfortunately we are not and never will be equal in all ways. Do you also propose taking parts of my brain and giving them to GGG? Or taking some of Hank's inches and giving them to Sidd?

Just like a Republican. Rob from the poor to give to the rich.