Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[ltl/fb]

I was not around today.

I have fucked the guy who was a "libertarian" (I cannot call anyone that without the quotes, it's such bullshit) since he yapped about that, but it took a while and it was very non-talky. All good things. I am willing to be wilfully ignorant about someone's politics for sex. If they insist on shoving them in my face, it's bad. I would probably have gotten impatient with conspiracy theory guy. Though, the Sting lyrics might have done it more. I remember a guy in high school (!!!!) who quoted, um, whoever did "Somebody," lyrics to me. Christ. I stopped even talking to him.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
From Yahoo news:

Un, did Teddy just sober up or something? A column from 3 years ago?

Santorum should ask Teddy to reapologize to the Kopechne family.

Its too bad those two can't duel.

With tactical nukes.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
I was not around today.

I have fucked the guy who was a "libertarian" (I cannot call anyone that without the quotes, it's such bullshit) since he yapped about that, but it took a while and it was very non-talky. All good things. I am willing to be wilfully ignorant about someone's politics for sex. If they insist on shoving them in my face, it's bad. I would probably have gotten impatient with conspiracy theory guy. Though, the Sting lyrics might have done it more. I remember a guy in high school (!!!!) who quoted, um, whoever did "Somebody," lyrics to me. Christ. I stopped even talking to him.

I was socialable and happy until the age of 23. then I got anti-social. It sounds like maybe you turned earlier?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Reapologize? He should seek to offer a sincere apology to them each and every day of the rest of his miserable alcohol soaked life. And pray to the Lord for forgiveness.

- On August 13, based on a tip from a telephone company employee, The Manchester Union Leader reported that Senator Kennedy had charged 17 long distance telephone calls to his credit card during the hours he claimed to be "in shock" after the accident. - One of the calls Kennedy made from the ferryhouse was to Mary Jo Kopechne's parents. The Senator, however, neglected to mention that he was the driver of the accident car when he called to report their daughter's death. Instead, they learned that information later from a wire service story.
- The Kopechnes found Kennedy's evasiveness and lack of candor baffling. "We didn't even know she was with Kennedy - that kind of upset us," Joe Kopechne said. "There we were, the last to know."


What a piece of shite!





She would be turning 65 two weeks from today. How sad that the left wing political elitists celebrate a man who would take 36 years away from a lovely innocent young girl. I honestly don't know how the demos sleep at night.

Dude. This horse has been dead for over 3 decades. I hear ya, but you're fucking killing me here... Jesus, whats next? A debate about Iran Contra?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I was socialable and happy until the age of 23. then I got anti-social. It sounds like maybe you turned earlier?

You wouldn't have even recognized me pre-23. I view 23-26 as a black period... like Clapton's heroin exile, or U2's industrial phase... perhaps Jordan's flirt with baseball...

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by I Am A Sad Sock
It just sucks because although he is an odd looking kind of guy, he grew on me and I ended up feeling hot for him and he also did nice things. I'm wondering if I should let him cool down for a while more and then call him and say "come on; don't be silly". The only thing that stops me is looking back at some of his emails (like the one below -- note that his job is in management/tech, not art) and then I think, "Maybe you should leave this thing alone". Well anyway, thanks for the thoughts and humor. For some reason, this one really shook me up and saddened me. I hate to say it, but I miss him (though not the wingnut stuff).

Geez, Sunny. If you want to take back lunchbox, just do it already. Waah, waah, waah.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Spanky
Bartender. Mr. Bings? Have I ever been to Mr. Bings?

If you haven't, you need to. It's the place to be.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by bilmore
Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist is in the hospital in Arlington, Va., for observation and tests after developing a fever, the Supreme Court said on Wednesday.

Kathleen L. Arberg, the Court's spokeswoman, made this statement in response to press inquiries: "Last night, the Chief Justice went to Arlington Hospital by ambulance because of a fever. He was admitted for observation and tests."

Ms Arberg said she had no further details, including no estimate of how long he would remain. He was still at the hospital in mid-afternoon.

http://www.sctnomination.com/blog/

Tic toc tic toc tic toc....................

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Christ. I stopped even talking to him.

I miss you. I am not eating.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Dude. This horse has been dead for over 3 decades. I hear ya, but you're fucking killing me here... Jesus, whats next? A debate about Iran Contra?

I agree, sort of. Stuff like the Kennedys' crimes can get hit with a relevancy objection (or some such legal manuveur-rememeber I am not really a lawyer so your terms are being foreign to me) but Teddy keeps opening the proverbial door, sts.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You wouldn't have even recognized me pre-23. I view 23-26 as a black period... ...

Soul man?

[Penske_Account]

Was on the Today Show this morning.

Two words: scumbag......three words: partisan scumbag.

I don't think any laws were broken here but regardless, I am glad these traitors were rolled.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Was on the Today Show this morning.

Two words: scumbag......three words: partisan scumbag.

I don't think any laws were broken here but regardless, I am glad these traitors were rolled.

Serious question for you, Slave, and bilmore.

Let's assume that you are right about everything -- Wilson's partisan motivation, that he lied, that Plame picked him for the mission because she wanted to set the Admin up, etc.

It is not disputed that Plame had non-official cover at one point in time, and was "employed" by a company that was a CIA front.

Let's assume that someone in the Admin (doesn't have to be Karl Rove) told Novak and Cooper and others that Wilson was a liar and that they should assess his motivation becuase his wife set him up on the mission. Let's assume that the statute wasn't broken by this act.

Even assuming all that you assert is true, we still have a front company whose cover has been blown, along with the cover of every CIA person who has worked there, and every foreign source who provided information to the CIA via that front company. I am sure that Russian intelligence and Chinese intelligence and French intelligence and every other country in the world that has reason to keep an eye on us for business or security reasons (or vice versa) has now rolled up any then-current activities related to this front, and are going back and figuring out all of the past covert activities they did.

Was it worth it? And would you be so sanguine about it if it were the Clinton Administration that flipped a CIA front company and all of the agents operating through it because they didn't like the comments an agent's wife or husband made about sending US forces into Bosnia (which was, as you may recall, a rather partisan dispute)?

[Replaced_Texan]

Has anyone heard of this book?

There's an interesting interview with the author in the American Conservative magazine.

Robert Pape: Over the past two years, I have collected the first complete database of every suicide-terrorist attack around the world from 1980 to early 2004. This research is conducted not only in English but also in native-language sources—Arabic, Hebrew, Russian, and Tamil, and others—so that we can gather information not only from newspapers but also from products from the terrorist community. The terrorists are often quite proud of what they do in their local communities, and they produce albums and all kinds of other information that can be very helpful to understand suicide-terrorist attacks.

This wealth of information creates a new picture about what is motivating suicide terrorism. Islamic fundamentalism is not as closely associated with suicide terrorism as many people think. The world leader in suicide terrorism is a group that you may not be familiar with: the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka.

This is a Marxist group, a completely secular group that draws from the Hindu families of the Tamil regions of the country. They invented the famous suicide vest for their suicide assassination of Rajiv Ghandi in May 1991. The Palestinians got the idea of the suicide vest from the Tamil Tigers.

TAC: So if Islamic fundamentalism is not necessarily a key variable behind these groups, what is?

RP: The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland. From Lebanon to Sri Lanka to Chechnya to Kashmir to the West Bank, every major suicide-terrorist campaign—over 95 percent of all the incidents—has had as its central objective to compel a democratic state to withdraw.

TAC: That would seem to run contrary to a view that one heard during the American election campaign, put forth by people who favor Bush’s policy. That is, we need to fight the terrorists over there, so we don’t have to fight them here.

RP: Since suicide terrorism is mainly a response to foreign occupation and not Islamic fundamentalism, the use of heavy military force to transform Muslim societies over there, if you would, is only likely to increase the number of suicide terrorists coming at us.

Since 1990, the United States has stationed tens of thousands of ground troops on the Arabian Peninsula, and that is the main mobilization appeal of Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. People who make the argument that it is a good thing to have them attacking us over there are missing that suicide terrorism is not a supply-limited phenomenon where there are just a few hundred around the world willing to do it because they are religious fanatics. It is a demand-driven phenomenon. That is, it is driven by the presence of foreign forces on the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland. The operation in Iraq has stimulated suicide terrorism and has given suicide terrorism a new lease on life.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Serious question for you, Slave, and bilmore.

Let's assume that you are right about everything -- Wilson's partisan motivation, that he lied, that Plame picked him for the mission because she wanted to set the Admin up, etc.

It is not disputed that Plame had non-official cover at one point in time, and was "employed" by a company that was a CIA front.

Let's assume that someone in the Admin (doesn't have to be Karl Rove) told Novak and Cooper and others that Wilson was a liar and that they should assess his motivation becuase his wife set him up on the mission. Let's assume that the statute wasn't broken by this act.

Even assuming all that you assert is true, we still have a front company whose cover has been blown, along with the cover of every CIA person who has worked there, and every foreign source who provided information to the CIA via that front company. I am sure that Russian intelligence and Chinese intelligence and French intelligence and every other country in the world that has reason to keep an eye on us for business or security reasons (or vice versa) has now rolled up any then-current activities related to this front, and are going back and figuring out all of the past covert activities they did.

Was it worth it? And would you be so sanguine about it if it were the Clinton Administration that flipped a CIA front company and all of the agents operating through it because they didn't like the comments an agent's wife or husband made about sending US forces into Bosnia (which was, as you may recall, a rather partisan dispute)?

I see your point but the problem here is the Admin had a rogue husband-wife team using their government offices to fraudulently attempt to discredit administration policy in furtherance of national security. They had to be neutralised. At any cost. Thankfully Rove et al had the nads to undertake the mission despite the inevitable media frenzy that could result.

The blame should be appropriately placed with the Plames.