Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Replaced_Texan]

The Dante's Inferno Test has banished you to the Second Level of Hell!

Here is how you matched up against all the levels:
Level | Score
Purgatory | Very Low
Level 1 - Limbo | Very Low
Level 2 | Very High
Level 3 | Moderate
Level 4 | Low
Level 5 | Very High
Level 6 - The City of Dis | Very High
Level 7 | High
Level 8- the Malebolge | Very High
Level 9 - Cocytus | Very High

Level descriptions: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-i...formation.html
Take the test: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.html

Level 2

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You have come to a place mute of all light, where the wind bellows as the sea does in a tempest. This is the realm where the lustful spend eternity. Here, sinners are blown around endlessly by the unforgiving winds of unquenchable desire as punishment for their transgressions. The infernal hurricane that never rests hurtles the spirits onward in its rapine, whirling them round, and smiting, it molests them. You have betrayed reason at the behest of your appetite for pleasure, and so here you are doomed to remain. Cleopatra and Helen of Troy are two that share in your fate.
Edited to add the description of my new home.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Has anyone gotten a puppy while working full time, with no spouse / live in / roommates? And if so, do you have pointers?

I did. I came home at lunch every day to let him out, but if you've got a yard that might work too. I can't recommend this book highly enough -- I just lent my copy to neighbors with a puppy, and they've been raving about it too.


And, in other news, I thought this place looked familiar:

Your fate has been decided....
You are one of the lucky ones! Because of your virtue and beliefs, you have escaped eternal punishment. You are sent to the First Level of Hell - Limbo!
First Level of Hell - Limbo

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Charon ushers you across the river Acheron, and you find yourself upon the brink of grief's abysmal valley. You are in Limbo, a place of sorrow without torment. You encounter a seven-walled castle, and within those walls you find rolling fresh meadows illuminated by the light of reason, whereabout many shades dwell. These are the virtuous pagans, the great philosophers and authors, unbaptised children, and others unfit to enter the kingdom of heaven. You share company with Caesar, Homer, Virgil, Socrates, and Aristotle. There is no punishment here, and the atmosphere is peaceful, yet sad.

[SlaveNoMore]

Replaced_Texan
The Dante's Inferno Test has banished you to the Second Level of Hell!

I am very upset. Apparently, I am too virtuous for the basement, as I am stuck on only the 8th Level of Hell:


"The wretched King Minos has decided your fate. His tale wraps around his body 8 times.
The sweet light no longer strikes against your eyes. Your shade has been banished to... the Eighth Level of Hell - the Malebolge!"


Eighth Level of Hell - the Malebolge
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Many and varied sinners suffer eternally in the multi-leveled Malebolge, an ampitheatre-shapped pit of despair Wholly of stone and of an iron colour: Those guilty of fraudulence and malice; the seducers and pimps, who are whipped by horned demons; the hypocrites, who struggle to walk in lead-lined cloaks; the barraters, who are ducked in boiling pitch by demons known as the Malebranche. The simonists, wedged into stone holes, and whose feet are licked by flames, kick and writhe desperately. The magicians, diviners, fortune tellers, and panderers are all here, as are the thieves. Some wallow in human excrement. Serpents writhe and wrap around men, sometimes fusing into each other. Bodies are torn apart. When you arrive, you will want to put your hands over your ears because of the lamentations of the sinners here, who are afflicted with scabs like leprosy, and lay sick on the ground, furiously scratching their skin off with their nails. Indeed, justice divine doth smite them with its hammer.

[mmm3587]

I thought some here might find this interesting. There is also an accompanying article describing the popularity of plastic surgery in South Korea.


http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers...ore_after.html

Spree: a few mildly disturbing before pictures

The article: http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers.../plastics.html

[evenodds]

I am also in the second level of hell.

I scored "high" on lustful and violent and "very low" on gluttonous, prodigal and avaricious, and heretics. Everything else is low or moderate.

The wretched King Minos has decided your fate. His tale wraps around his body 2 times. The sweet light no longer strikes against your eyes. Your shade has been banished to... the Second Level of Hell!

Second Level of Hell
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You have come to a place mute of all light, where the wind bellows as the sea does in a tempest. This is the realm where the lustful spend eternity. Here, sinners are blown around endlessly by the unforgiving winds of unquenchable desire as punishment for their transgressions. The infernal hurricane that never rests hurtles the spirits onward in its rapine, whirling them round, and smiting, it molests them. You have betrayed reason at the behest of your appetite for pleasure, and so here you are doomed to remain. Cleopatra and Helen of Troy are two that share in your fate.

[purse junkie]

I'm a lustful, wrathful heretic condemned to the fifth level of hell.

Luckily, as a godless unbeliever, I'm fairly confident I'm not actually going there.

[lawyer_princess]

I guess it's not enought to be a good person. Atheists fair poorly in hell:

Sixth Level of Hell - The City of Dis

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You approach Satan's wretched city where you behold a wide plain surrounded by iron walls. Before you are fields full of distress and torment terrible. Burning tombs are littered about the landscape. Inside these flaming sepulchers suffer the heretics, failing to believe in God and the afterlife, who make themselves audible by doleful sighs. You will join the wicked that lie here, and will be offered no respite. The three infernal Furies stained with blood, with limbs of women and hair of serpents, dwell in this circle of Hell.

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
PJ,
Now re: "slut" - you're abolutely right. That's an unfair sexist term which I'd never be caught dead using. Men bitch and moan about never getting laid, then use stupid terms like whore and slut to demean women. Those dumbass men don't realize that in making women's sexuality and chasteness the measuring stick for insult, these dumb fucks decrease their own chances of getting laid.

I know DS has already mentioned it, but, as I have explained ad nauseum, I agree and disagree.

"Slut" is a term of endearment, a compliment, and a short-hand term for the type of women men should reward with their presence, interest and praise, while non-sluts should be shunned. ostracized and reviled. As men, we can best change female behavior by encouraging the behavior we like (i.e., putting out sooner, with fewer Rules, for less time and money invested and without "love" or similar crap) and discouraging the behavior we don't (i.e. prudish, prim, chaste, celibate, modest, good girl, etc.)

98% of these behaviors are not biologic or genetic, but cultural and learned. As such, they can be changed. For example, next time you are in a conversation with a girl (at a party, bar, wherever) who says something like "I've been dating him for three months and we haven't had sex," respond with "You frigid, manipulative bitch" or "That's bullshit." If you are uncomfortable with that level of confrontation, just walk away with an aside like "I don't want to continue to talk to someone who holds your beliefs" or whatever you would feel comfortable saying to, say, Pat Buchanan if you found out you were talking to him at a party.

Less (I would have linked to my prior missives on the subject, but Infirmation has been down for about 36 hours now) inSF

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
But if the n-word is not in fact intended that way by the speaker using it, it is still an unacceptable word. What makes the word an unacceptable is the way it's target can be expected to hear it, more than the specific (and unknowable) intent of the speaker. Your (correct) point about the n-word is that intent to bring up a certain part of black history can always be inferred, whether a user might argue that it wasn't intended or not, because, well, everyone knows what it means to the hearer given its historical baggage.

I disagree. The simple fact that we're having this argument leads me to believe that either (i) everyone does not know of the word's historical baggage or (ii) everyone does not agree that such historical baggage is attached to the word (as it is so clearly attached to the word "nigger"). Now, on the second point, I wouldn't mind being corrected because I can't possibly begin to outline the history of the word. I'm only going on personal experience. Everyone's personal experience with regard to the word "nigger" is the same.

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Everyone knows that about the c-word, too. The only question is, does the target of the insult's widely known understanding of the meaning matter? You say no. I say the fact that black people took the n-word "badly" used not to matter either; that was a result of the lack of power blacks had to assert their views on the subject. Surely the white people who used it did not have the right to define what black people were allowed to feel about it, and surely claims of different "intent," even if sincere in a specific instance, should have been met with the derision they eventually received.

Impressive gymnastics. But I don't think you're arguing that a woman with a severe attitude problem who has just been called a "cunt" stands on the same ground as a black person with a severe attitude problem who has just been called "nigger." In fact, please give me a scenario where "nigger" means (or its user's intention is) anything other than a racial slur specifically intended to reference our peculiar institution and subsequent history.

The point is until you can outline the word's etymology to sufficiently support your argument, I will assume that the meaning you say always attaches is actually not always necessarily there.

I'm guessing this might be difficult (although not impossible) because a quick look at Dictionary.com gives me the following definitions:

cunt
n. Vulgar Slang
1. The female genital organs.
2. Sexual intercourse with a woman.
3. Offensive. Used as a disparaging term for a woman.
Used as a disparaging term for a person one dislikes or finds extremely disagreeable. [emphasis added]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
And you're nuts if you don't think millenia of history (and widespread current practice) of women being the sexual and child-rearing posessions of men isn't inherently incorporated into the whole concept of verbally reducing a woman to her genitalia.

I don't think I am. And the very definition of the word says otherwise. So, unless you can prove how nuts I actually am (not in general, but limited to this argument), I'll stick with "crazy."

TM

[Edited to fix parenthetical]

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I am very upset. Apparently, I am too virtuous for the basement, as I am stuck on only the 8th Level of Hell

Well, you beat me, though I'm highly rated in the malebolge, too.

The Dante's Inferno Test has banished you to the Fourth Level of Hell!

Just before the river Styx is the Fourth Level of Hell. Here, the prodigal and the avaricious suffer their punishment, as they roll weights back and forth against one another. You will share eternal damnation with others who either wasted and lived greedily and insatiably, or who stockpiled their fortunes, hoarding everything and sharing nothing. Plutus, the wolf-like demon of wealth, dwells here.

Here is how you matched up against all the levels:
Level | Score
Purgatory | Very Low
Level 1 - Limbo | Very Low
Level 2 | Moderate
Level 3 | High
Level 4 | High
Level 5 | Moderate
Level 6 - The City of Dis | Low
Level 7 | High
Level 8- the Malebolge | High
Level 9 - Cocytus | Moderate

Level descriptions: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-i...formation.html
Take the test: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.html

[ABBAKiss]

Originally posted by spookyfish
And along the same lines:
My wife did not start watching this until a couple of weeks ago. She asked me of the significance of "205" last week, and my response was "I don't know, maybe that's what he weighed when he was 10 or something."

Thanks for bringing this current--I did miss it when scrolling through. WRT 205--my house believes that 205 may be Ruben's ideal weight. Ryan Seacrest could fit his entire body in one of Ruben's pant legs. Hell, Ryan Seacrest could fit his entire body in one of Kimberly's pant legs. (This is a slam on Ryan, not Kimberly).

This is probably a JFF explanation at this point, but 205 is the Alabama area code where Ruben's mother lives.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I am very upset. Apparently, I am too virtuous for the basement, as I am stuck on only the 8th Level of Hell:


"The wretched King Minos has decided your fate. His tale wraps around his body 8 times.
The sweet light no longer strikes against your eyes. Your shade has been banished to... the Eighth Level of Hell - the Malebolge!"


Eighth Level of Hell - the Malebolge
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Many and varied sinners suffer eternally in the multi-leveled Malebolge, an ampitheatre-shapped pit of despair Wholly of stone and of an iron colour: Those guilty of fraudulence and malice; the seducers and pimps, who are whipped by horned demons; the hypocrites, who struggle to walk in lead-lined cloaks; the barraters, who are ducked in boiling pitch by demons known as the Malebranche. The simonists, wedged into stone holes, and whose feet are licked by flames, kick and writhe desperately. The magicians, diviners, fortune tellers, and panderers are all here, as are the thieves. Some wallow in human excrement. Serpents writhe and wrap around men, sometimes fusing into each other. Bodies are torn apart. When you arrive, you will want to put your hands over your ears because of the lamentations of the sinners here, who are afflicted with scabs like leprosy, and lay sick on the ground, furiously scratching their skin off with their nails. Indeed, justice divine doth smite them with its hammer.

Fuck. I only made level two. High lust, low religious conviction. I need a recount.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
The Dante's Inferno Test has banished you to the Second Level of Hell!

Here is how you matched up against all the levels:
Level | Score
Purgatory | Very Low
Level 1 - Limbo | Very Low
Level 2 | Very High
Level 3 | Moderate
Level 4 | Low
Level 5 | Very High
Level 6 - The City of Dis | Very High
Level 7 | High
Level 8- the Malebolge | Very High
Level 9 - Cocytus | Very High

Level descriptions: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-i...formation.html
Take the test: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-test.html

Level 2

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You have come to a place mute of all light, where the wind bellows as the sea does in a tempest. This is the realm where the lustful spend eternity. Here, sinners are blown around endlessly by the unforgiving winds of unquenchable desire as punishment for their transgressions. The infernal hurricane that never rests hurtles the spirits onward in its rapine, whirling them round, and smiting, it molests them. You have betrayed reason at the behest of your appetite for pleasure, and so here you are doomed to remain. Cleopatra and Helen of Troy are two that share in your fate.
Edited to add the description of my new home.

I'm a Level 2 also, which means there is a ring of truth to those who have told me "there is a special place in hell for you."

To which I respond, "Well, at least I'll see most of my friends there."

spookyfish

[evenodds]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I am very upset. Apparently, I am too virtuous for the basement, as I am stuck on only the 8th Level of Hell:

I wouldn't be too upset. Since the 9th circle is restricted to Judas, Brutus, and Cassius getting chewed on by the three faces of Satan, you've sunk as low as you can go.

Even(congratulations!)Odds

[LessinSF]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I am very upset. Apparently, I am too virtuous for the basement, as I am stuck on only the 8th Level of Hell:

Me too, but I noted that the 8th level was considered "extreme," while the 9th was only "high." The 9th apparently is saved for the Treacherous and I guess we are too loyal to friends and family for that, although we might bugger them.