All Hank, all the time.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
How about recent examples of Haiti and Kosovo?

Define "success". (And did we invade Haiti?)

Successful nation building includes Germany and Japan post WWII.

Sure. But keep in mind the prelude that that took. (Plus it was easy for Germans to live with Jews after WWII, because it was a pretty abstract principle.)

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Scary, ain't it? And it really makes me uncomfortable saying these things. However, the more I look at the problem the more intractable it gets. I don't like that this is the conclusion I've come to. I just can't find any other way around it and I don't think we can just let it work itself out.

It seems clear to me that the whole fuck-up traces back to the West's cut-and-run in the late 40s. That's what set me down the road of thiking about going back and fixing what we screwed up in the first place.

That is Britain and France's fault. they broke it, thye should fix it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
Bosnia and East Timor

You are citing countries where the invasion was to remove an occupying army, one that was oppressing and killing the people of those countries.

If we were to occupy Lebanon and Palestine, we'd be doing the opposite.

OTOH, it's interesting to see Repubs becoming fans of nation-building.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by taxwonk
That is also going on today. There are more than a few case of "honor killings" of deflowered daughters or disobedient wives in the U.S. It's even more prevalent in countries like Mexico and Brazil. In other words, the problems with honoring Sharia aren't limited to that particular cultural system.

I do believe that we prosecute that sort of thing in the US. Don't we?

[Spanky]

My friends commanding General wants to know where, if they want a large influential audience, they should post on the internet. They were under the delusion that this board was frequented by many highly influential people, I disabused them of that very quickly (I guess they think like everyone else that lawyers run this country).

Any suggestions?

[SlaveNoMore]

[itaxwonk [/i]
That is also going on today. There are more than a few case of "honor killings" of deflowered daughters or disobedient wives in the U.S. It's even more prevalent in countries like Mexico and Brazil. In other words, the problems with honoring Sharia aren't limited to that particular cultural system.

That because a few nutjobs elsewhere are murderers, that this barbaric institution is ok?

What are you trying to say?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
You are citing countries where the invasion was to remove an occupying army, one that was oppressing and killing the people of those countries.

If we were to occupy Lebanon and Palestine, we'd be doing the opposite.

OTOH, it's interesting to see Repubs becoming fans of nation-building.

Clinton criticized Bush 1 for doing it, and then did it. Bush II criticized Clinton for doing it then did it himself. Easy to criticize, hard to avoid.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
if this is some veiled threat let me admit right now i was lying with what I said I did to your sister, and Penske and Thurgreed together with her? That actually only happened once. Let her live?

I know this is a lie because none of you have gone blind or killed yourselves.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Adder
most of the cut and paste was done in 1919.

And re-done in 1948 after Europe decided that, rather than give them back their homes, businesses, property, etc., they'd rather just dump a bunch of displaced Jews that nobody in particular ever really liked anyway smack dab in the middle.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
That is Britain and France's fault. they broke it, thye should fix it.

Keep talking like this and I may let you out of the time-out corner yet.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
My friends commanding General wants to know where, if they want a large influential audience, they should post on the internet. They were under the delusion that this board was frequented by many highly influential people, I disabused them of that very quickly (I guess they think like everyone else that lawyers run this country).

Any suggestions?

Depends what they're posting. Certain bloggers can generate massive page hits (e.g., Instapundit, Atrios). I would think that bulletin boards would not be useful at all.

[SlaveNoMore]

[iSpanky [/i]
I don't expect them to act guilty. I expect them to critisize the terrorist acts the way everyone else does (without qualifiers or demands). Actually, I don't expect anything, I just think such an act would be in everyones best interest, especially theirs.

Instead, the self-proclaimed "moderates" collectively make veiled threats and demands.

It's utterly amazing that they acknowledge that part of the problem is their community's disconnect with the West, so, to solve the problem, they suggest imposing sharia law, to only further disconnect the community from the West.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Clinton criticized Bush 1 for doing it, and then did it. Bush II criticized Clinton for doing it then did it himself. Easy to criticize, hard to avoid.

When did Clinton criticize GHWB for doing what?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Spanky
My friends commanding General wants to know where, if they want a large influential audience, they should post on the internet. They were under the delusion that this board was frequented by many highly influential people, I disabused them of that very quickly (I guess they think like everyone else that lawyers run this country).

Any suggestions?

I hear from Less that any site involving hot Rumanian women is bound to get lots of hits.

[Spanky]

When the January 17,1994 earthquake hit, the 118, the 405, the 5 and other freeways in the Los Angeles area had huge sections that had totally collapsed. The first estimates were a minimum of three years to fix the roads--and at an outrageous cost. This would destroy the Southern California economy, jobs lost, businesses closed and an exodus that had not happened in California before.

Instead of raising taxes, bemoaning his bad luck, not blaming the Federal government for not acting quickly enough,, Gov. Pete Wilson, like the Marine he will always be, took action.

By Executive Order he temporarily ended many environmental laws that were only meant to slow the building process and to make it more costly. He put aside the phony "prevailing wage" laws that are meant to provide unions with tribute for their donations to hack politicians. Then he did what private industry does--he gave a bonus to construction firms that finished ahead of schedule. Most government contracts have penalties for finishing late. Wilson understood that the public was being inconvenienced and business could not operate without a solid freeway system. Instead of three years, almost all the needed work was completed in eight months, and the most needed in less than three months. Businesses made money, union workers and non union workers got paid premium wages, yet the State of California saved money. It was a win win situation for all.

Instead of taking over 2 years to fix the 10 Freeway, it took 66 days. Here is an article written by Gov. Wilson on how he did it, http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110007252
Three shifts, working 24/7 made the completion in a little over two months, not two years! Reason magazine did a complete analysis of how Wilson repaired the freeways.