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[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I harbor a fantasy about ripping out the driveway in my back yard and putting in a single lane lap pool.

Damn, we you said you were interested in exploring some fantasies this weekend, I didn't realize that meant me spending the weekend digging a trench in your backyard in the middle of summer. Well, too late to change plans now.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by Spanky
Exactly. You have to take every ride in the amusement park.

Nobody on his deathbed ever looked back and said "I should have spent more time at the office."

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
It's pretty true of me. And I don't have a penis, last I checked.

eta: nope, still no penis. Yay!!

Can I see?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
It's pretty true of me. And I don't have a penis, last I checked.

eta: nope, still no penis. Yay!!

3 (true of me), and 2 (no penis).

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
It's pretty true of me. And I don't have a penis, last I checked.

Same here. In my world, men are divided into two camps: those I'm into and those I'm not. The second group has no chance whatsoever. The first camp is subdivided in various categories, where circumstances come into play as to whether or not I'll say yes or not. Some are automatic yeses, and some are yeses only under certain conditions. Six months ago, I wouldn't have said yes to balt, but he was always in the "into" group.

[nononono]

Originally posted by Spanky
I could not disagree nore with what Sebastian posted. In by twenty some odd years of dating I can conclusively say that you couldn't be more wrong.

1) My experience is that most woman, especially the older they get, are very wary of any guy. When they meet a guy, and for the first couple of dates, they scrutinize and think about everything he says and does. If you make a wrong move that triggers some memory of a bad experience with a boyfriend you can screw it up. A girl can be really into you and you can screw it up or she can not be into you and you can turn them around on a first date. And it can be really stupid little things that does it. The first meeting and the first few dates are like walking through a minefield.

2) Your whole idea about a woman either being into you or not is way off to. Woman don't know what the hell the want and they change their minds often. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard a woman say about their boyfirend or husband " when we first me I didn't like him at all or he was a total freak and I was not interest in him or he was not the type of guy I dated ...but the story is always the same. They didn't think they were into the guy and then he did something to change their mind.

3) At this point there is not enough information to know what is going through her mind. There were all sorts of mixed signals. She wrote down her phone number (she did not say it to me so I had to write it down) and said she really wanted to go out to dinner. When I called her she seemed shocked that I called. I think she was expecting a call from someone else. She kept saying she did want to go out but I think she is nervous because she doesn't know who I am. - actually this is waste of time because there is no way to know what she is thinking and she may not even know what she is thinking.

Like I said, she doesn't trust you. This could be for a variety of reasons.

But, er, thanks for the lesson what women (ie., people like me) mean and think. Of course, I am not a 25-year-old Serbian waitress in California who has been approached by a suave, if apparently hirsute, real estate developer guy, so it's not like I'm in a perfection position to say. But I've never had a guy trigger - inside of two conversations - such a bad memory of such an awful prior experience that it compltely freaked me out; there was always something particular about the (new) guy that was an issue. In any event, I don't think anyone meant to say that it's impossible to screw it up/make it better, but her behavior on the phone is at best wary, and most women ifwary enough don't respond too well to further pushing.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Honey, I am a woman, and it's true of me.

Then you are in a small minority

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I harbor a fantasy about ripping out the driveway in my back yard and putting in a single lane lap pool. It wouldn't end up being more than 15 to 20 meters unless I moved some fencing around, but I'd certainly use it a lot.

It's not at the top of my fantasy list right now, though.

What's wrong with the Buffalo Bayou?

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Nobody on his deathbed ever looked back and said "I should have spent more time at the office."

However, some have wished for more pie.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Spanky
I could not disagree nore with what Sebastian posted. In by twenty some odd years of dating I can conclusively say that you couldn't be more wrong.

2) Your whole idea about a woman either being into you or not is way off to. Woman don't know what the hell the want and they change their minds often. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard a woman say about their boyfirend or husband " when we first me I didn't like him at all or he was a total freak and I was not interest in him or he was not the type of guy I dated ...but the story is always the same. They didn't think they were into the guy and then he did something to change their mind.

3) At this point there is not enough information to know what is going through her mind. There were all sorts of mixed signals. She wrote down her phone number (she did not say it to me so I had to write it down) and said she really wanted to go out to dinner. When I called her she seemed shocked that I called. I think she was expecting a call from someone else. She kept saying she did want to go out but I think she is nervous because she doesn't know who I am. - actually this is waste of time because there is no way to know what she is thinking and she may not even know what she is thinking.

Spanks... What I posted wasn't "my" view of things. Its what women have told me. You're free to disagree with me, but if you want to know what women think, the best way to find out is to ask them. Run what you say above past three women and ask them if its true. Get back to me with the results.

Brother, I wish I could tell you otherwise, but they make up their minds quickly. And when they refuse to pick a time for a date, they're politely, gently saying "Hey, not interested. take the hint." I hope you prove me wrong and find the exception here. Good luck.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck
Forgive me if I don't know who Stacy is. And why was he a jerk to him/her? (don't go all inside jokey on me, Spanky)

Its to long and complicated. If you are really interest go read my final posts on the Spanky board.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by nononono
Like I said, she doesn't trust you. This could be for a variety of reasons.

But, er, thanks for the lesson what women (ie., people like me) mean and think. Of course, I am not a 25-year-old Serbian waitress in California who has been approached by a suave, if apparently hirsute, real estate developer guy, so it's not like I'm in a perfection position to say. But I've never had a guy trigger - inside of two conversations - such a bad memory of such an awful prior experience that it compltely freaked me out; there was always something particular about the (new) guy that was an issue. In any event, I don't think anyone meant to say that it's impossible to screw it up/make it better, but her behavior on the phone is at best wary, and most women ifwary enough don't respond too well to further pushing.

Personally I am not wary of men who adhere to such concepts as "women don't know what the hell they want and change their minds often," and "dates are like walking through a minefield because all women have baggage that could make things confusing for me." I am wary of hirsuteness, however.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
the guy on the phone looks like me

I cannot believe no comment on that shirt yet. Good god, what the fuck is that thing? It looks like a big pink hefty bag and makes that guy look enormous, even though he doesn't seem to have a fat person's head.

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by Spanky
Its to long and complicated. If you are really interest go read my final posts on the Spanky board.

Besides, if you simply say, "Stacy is a 9-year-old girl who hangs around my house every day" without the back story, it just sounds kind of squicky.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Nobody on his deathbed ever looked back and said "I should have spent more time at the office."

What if there was the promise of all the pie you could eat?