A disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person would wade into.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I read somewhere today that there is a renewed effort to tap into the heat/energy in the earth's core and that not only is this possible, but fairly efficient. Could be interesting, although I'm sure the environmentalists will find something they don't like about it, and it probably will cause more earthquakes or something like that.

There are a bunch of initiatives on this front - I have a bil who has installed a thermal "spring" under his factory, which basically relies on near surface geothermal energy to produce power. One of my kids did her school science project on geothermal (inspried by bil).

I'm told it's not yet economically competitive to use to generate power for the grid, but can be competitive where you're off-grid - as in many areas of the developing world.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski [list]Web Site Kicks Sand in Faces of GIs in Iraq Asking for Mats to Ease Hardship of Sleeping on Ground

On the same day, Hess received this reply:
Request Denied ...we would NEVER ship to Iraq.

He must not be one of those moderate muslims.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Who have you been reading on this, and where? I ask, because you indicated you thought the idea of intensifying hurricanes was pop science, and this guy doesn't strike me as pop science, nor do the studies he cites.

The point club specifically questioned as pop science was that warming is causing MORE hurricanes. He might feel the same way about increased intensity, but that's not evidenced by his posts in this thread.

[Cletus Miller]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I think the science is a bit stronger than you suggest. They can extrapolate from the levels of certain chemicals in the ice. Of course, its never bulletproof.

Absolutely they can get pretty good data from the ice caps which shows the weather history at/near the ice caps. But extrapolating from polar weather conditions to the weather conditions everywhere else is the leap of faith, ill-advised or both. It's much like looking at the weather where you live and assuming that the trend line is the same everywhere.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Cletus Miller
The point club specifically questioned as pop science was that warming is causing MORE hurricanes. He might feel the same way about increased intensity, but that's not evidenced by his posts in this thread.

It's the same thing. If you have the same number of storms, but they become more intense, you have the number of storms that are categorized as hurricanes increase (as well as the number of storms that are catastrophic hurricanes).

As I understand it, the question of how many total storms are created is more complex and has a lot to do with local feedback as well as warming ocean temperatures - the same guy has some interesting articles on local feedback in the NOAA database.

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I was thinking of asking her how she reconciles her campaign for president with her previous promise to the voters of New York to serve a full term,,,,

She was first elected to the Senate in 2000, and re-elected in November 2006. Her Presidential inauguration will be in January, 2009.

How is that not a full term?

S_A_M

[Secret_Agent_Man]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Cato should be honest and take a stance in keeping with it's mission statement - inequality is a fact of life in a capitalist system. That would end the debate. Engaging these social engineers in their push toward soft socialism is playing their game. Fuck them. Tell them what immigrants heard when they came over 100 years ago - "you get free air here - the rest is on you."

You see, old bean, that approach ran into some difficulties when they began to allow the poor to vote, what?

S_A_M

[andViolins]

U.N. climate panel to project wrenching change


OSLO (Reuters) - A U.N. climate panel will project wrenching disruptions to nature by 2100 in a report next week blaming human use of fossil fuels more clearly than ever for global warming, scientific sources said.

A draft report based on work by 2,500 scientists and due for release on February 2 in Paris, draws on research showing greenhouse gases at their highest levels for 650,000 years, fuelling a warming likely to bring more droughts, floods and rising seas.

The report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) may have some good news, however, by toning down chances of the biggest temperature and sea level rises projected in the IPCC's previous 2001 study, the sources said.


full article here

aV

[SlaveNoMore]

Violins
U.N. climate panel to project wrenching change


OSLO (Reuters) - A U.N. climate panel will project wrenching disruptions to nature by 2100 in a report next week blaming human use of fossil fuels more clearly than ever for global warming, scientific sources said.

A draft report based on work by 2,500 scientists and due for release on February 2 in Paris, draws on research showing greenhouse gases at their highest levels for 650,000 years, fuelling a warming likely to bring more droughts, floods and rising seas.

The report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) may have some good news, however, by toning down chances of the biggest temperature and sea level rises projected in the IPCC's previous 2001 study, the sources said.


full article here

aV

The UN is still around? Who knew.

[SlaveNoMore]

The Speech George Bush Should Make Tuesday Night

Exclusive to PJM by Jules Crittenden

--
Don’t bother standing up or clapping, any of you. I already know who won the election, and I know how you feel.

I come before you tonight not to make amends, not to make it good, curry any favor or find any middle ground.

I am, more or less, a lame duck. You’ve had your 100 hours of party time. I know. I won’t get any legislation passed without some major bottom-kissing. Maybe something on illegal aliens. That health insurance thing I’ll be talking about later tonight is pretty much for show. I know it isn’t going anywhere. A proposal to raise middle-class taxes for a healthcare plan you don’t even want? What was I thinking?

None of that really matters. Not now. Those are peacetime issues we’ve been bickering about for a long time, and I don’t expect we’ll resolve them anytime soon.

So what is the best thing I can do tonight? I can tell you the truth. What none of you want to hear. What you’ve been stopping your ears to. The ugly truth.

The State of the Union is a disaster. I did my best, but I made mistakes, and my best wasn’t good enough.

We went to war without building up our army, and now, I am trying to make up for that.

But that is not the disaster.

The disaster is that you, Congress and the American people, do not care to fight.

ADVERTISEMENT
Faced with a fundamental challenge to our own security, to everything we believe in, to the world order to peace and security for which we and our parents fought so hard for so many years, you now want to pretend like none of these threats are real. You want to surrender to the evil I have been telling you about. An evil that, unchecked, can consume large parts of the world and threatens to usher in a dark age.

You didn’t like it when I talked about evil. Sounded too simple, too uncompromising, too moralistic. Too … biblical.

I don’t know what else you call people who fly passenger jets into office buildings; who rape women in front of their husbands and children, and execute their opponents in acid baths; who seek to spread tyrannical and archaic religious regimes that enslave women and stifle fundamental freedoms. Who want to dominate the world’s primary oil fields with nuclear weapons.

I call it evil. Works for me.

I’ve heard all the comparisons between Iraq and Vietnam. George Bush’s Vietnam. The myopia is astonishing, even for me, George Bush, who you all think just isn’t that smart. But I learned something in school: People who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Didn’t you learn anything from Vietnam? Didn’t you see what happened when your predecessors in Congress, disgruntled and responding to public opinion polls just like you are, voted repeatedly to undermine an ally that was fighting for its survival and making headway against evil? There, I’ve said it again. Millions of people were murdered or imprisoned.

And then, those who wished us ill … the evil-doers … evil, evil evil … took advantage of our weakness.

The Soviet Union, evil personified, invaded Afghanistan, knowing we’d do nothing about it. Iran defied all international norms, took our sovereign embassy and held our people hostage for 444 days. They knew we’d do nothing about it. It was a massive humiliation we have been paying for with our own precious blood ever since.

Where do you think this war we are now engaged in started, anyway? Just ask Osama bin Laden, veteran of the Afghan war against the Soviets, what lesson he learned from two decades of American appeasement and withdrawal in the face of provocation.

Now, you want to negotiate with two of the world’s primary sponsors of terrorism, who are directly involved in support of the terrorists who murder our soldiers. You want to make an arrangement by which we will exit Iraq, and leave it to them. To loot, to murder, to fight over, while the rest of the world’s evil regimes look on, see our weakness, and plot their own moves.

You can try that, with resolutions, by cutting spending for troops in the field, as you seek the short-term satisfaction of withdrawal. But I remain President of the United States, and as long as I am, I will be no lame duck in this fight.

I will engage evil directly where I find it, in Iraq and in Iran. With an aggressive and ruthless new strategy and a plan to build our army as we should have a long time ago, I will show the American people that we can fight and we can win. I expect that the American people, though misled by their press and many of their elected representatives, will see results and will get it. Because the American people are a people who in the end don’t give up, don’t stop fighting, refuse to lose, and will choose to win. I have faith in them.

Oh, there’s another one of those words you don’t like.

A nation that is not willing to fight for what it believes in, for its place in the world, is not worthy of its own ideals. But that is not America. I now intend to help America restore its faith in itself. By fighting this necessary fight that we cannot afford to lose.

So … are you with me, or against us?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jules Crittenden is an editor and columnist for the Boston Herald.
Crittenden’s web page is at Forward Movement.

link

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The UN is still around? Who knew.

Buckley.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The Speech George Bush Should Make Tuesday Night

Exclusive to PJM by Jules Crittenden

--
Don’t bother standing up or clapping, any of you. I already know who won the election, and I know how you feel.

I come before you tonight not to make amends, not to make it good, curry any favor or find any middle ground.

I am, more or less, a lame duck. You’ve had your 100 hours of party time. I know. I won’t get any legislation passed without some major bottom-kissing. Maybe something on illegal aliens. That health insurance thing I’ll be talking about later tonight is pretty much for show. I know it isn’t going anywhere. A proposal to raise middle-class taxes for a healthcare plan you don’t even want? What was I thinking?

None of that really matters. Not now. Those are peacetime issues we’ve been bickering about for a long time, and I don’t expect we’ll resolve them anytime soon.

So what is the best thing I can do tonight? I can tell you the truth. What none of you want to hear. What you’ve been stopping your ears to. The ugly truth.

The State of the Union is a disaster. I did my best, but I made mistakes, and my best wasn’t good enough.

We went to war without building up our army, and now, I am trying to make up for that.

But that is not the disaster.

The disaster is that you, Congress and the American people, do not care to fight.

ADVERTISEMENT
Faced with a fundamental challenge to our own security, to everything we believe in, to the world order to peace and security for which we and our parents fought so hard for so many years, you now want to pretend like none of these threats are real. You want to surrender to the evil I have been telling you about. An evil that, unchecked, can consume large parts of the world and threatens to usher in a dark age.

You didn’t like it when I talked about evil. Sounded too simple, too uncompromising, too moralistic. Too … biblical.

I don’t know what else you call people who fly passenger jets into office buildings; who rape women in front of their husbands and children, and execute their opponents in acid baths; who seek to spread tyrannical and archaic religious regimes that enslave women and stifle fundamental freedoms. Who want to dominate the world’s primary oil fields with nuclear weapons.

I call it evil. Works for me.

I’ve heard all the comparisons between Iraq and Vietnam. George Bush’s Vietnam. The myopia is astonishing, even for me, George Bush, who you all think just isn’t that smart. But I learned something in school: People who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Didn’t you learn anything from Vietnam? Didn’t you see what happened when your predecessors in Congress, disgruntled and responding to public opinion polls just like you are, voted repeatedly to undermine an ally that was fighting for its survival and making headway against evil? There, I’ve said it again. Millions of people were murdered or imprisoned.

And then, those who wished us ill … the evil-doers … evil, evil evil … took advantage of our weakness.

The Soviet Union, evil personified, invaded Afghanistan, knowing we’d do nothing about it. Iran defied all international norms, took our sovereign embassy and held our people hostage for 444 days. They knew we’d do nothing about it. It was a massive humiliation we have been paying for with our own precious blood ever since.

Where do you think this war we are now engaged in started, anyway? Just ask Osama bin Laden, veteran of the Afghan war against the Soviets, what lesson he learned from two decades of American appeasement and withdrawal in the face of provocation.

Now, you want to negotiate with two of the world’s primary sponsors of terrorism, who are directly involved in support of the terrorists who murder our soldiers. You want to make an arrangement by which we will exit Iraq, and leave it to them. To loot, to murder, to fight over, while the rest of the world’s evil regimes look on, see our weakness, and plot their own moves.

You can try that, with resolutions, by cutting spending for troops in the field, as you seek the short-term satisfaction of withdrawal. But I remain President of the United States, and as long as I am, I will be no lame duck in this fight.

I will engage evil directly where I find it, in Iraq and in Iran. With an aggressive and ruthless new strategy and a plan to build our army as we should have a long time ago, I will show the American people that we can fight and we can win. I expect that the American people, though misled by their press and many of their elected representatives, will see results and will get it. Because the American people are a people who in the end don’t give up, don’t stop fighting, refuse to lose, and will choose to win. I have faith in them.

Oh, there’s another one of those words you don’t like.

A nation that is not willing to fight for what it believes in, for its place in the world, is not worthy of its own ideals. But that is not America. I now intend to help America restore its faith in itself. By fighting this necessary fight that we cannot afford to lose.

So … are you with me, or against us?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jules Crittenden is an editor and columnist for the Boston Herald.
Crittenden’s web page is at Forward Movement.

link

Ah, yes, it's all so simple.

an ally that was fighting for its survival and making headway against evil?

Sounds like someone should read a book or two about the good folks who ran South Vietnam. Or maybe "headway" is a pun?

I like the idea of an ADVERTISEMENT in the middle of the speech, though. Maybe it could be one of those Army recruiting ones, where you get a free boonie hat just for ordering the video.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Ah, yes, it's all so simple.

Slave has figured out how to kill ideas, so we got that going for us.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Gattigap
Buckley.

I find it scary that I generally agree not only with Buckley's result, but also with much of his logic.

Am I getting conservative in my old age?