Patting the wrists, rolling the eyes.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Well, I'm looking mainly to Locke and his theory of man as essentially a brutish lout.

But even Locke wasn't solely concerned with property rights.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
When EPA tells you to stop emitting dioxin, they are simply trying to protect my right to be left alone.

No, no. The right to be left alone applies only to actions by government. You have no right to be left alone by private actors.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Well, I'm looking mainly to Locke and his theory of man as essentially a brutish lout.

Wasn't that Hobbes? I thought he was the brutish guy. Also nasty, and kind of short.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Wasn't that Hobbes? I thought he was the brutish guy. Also nasty, and kind of short.

I thought he was the tiger.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
No, no. The right to be left alone applies only to actions by government. You have no right to be left alone by private actors.

That's what common law property rights are for!

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
That's what common law property rights are for!

Rights of which period?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

I hope all those conservatives like Hank who insisted that we should accept MI6's say-so on the Niger uranium won't flip-flop now. A report from British intelligence that was just released records that before the war, "the intelligence and the facts were being fixed" to support the invasion:

• What the minutes clearly show is that Bush and Blair secretly agreed to wage war for "regime change" nearly a year before the invasion -- and months before they asked the United Nations Security Council to support renewed weapons inspections as an alternative to armed conflict. The minutes also reveal the lingering doubts over the legal and moral justifications for war within the Blair government.
  
  But for Americans, the most important lines in the July 23 minutes are those attributed to Sir Richard Dearlove, the head of the British Secret Intelligence Service, or MI6, who in spy jargon is to be referred to only as "C." The minutes indicate that Sir Richard had discovered certain harsh realities during a visit to the United States that summer:
  
  "C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the U.N. route ... There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action."

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I thought he was the tiger.

Egg-sactly.

[pubic hair on a coke can]

[ltl/fb]

I do believe my dad wrote a book that discussed Hobbes and Locke. Thus I have no idea what they stood for.

I am posting purely to get the "pubic hair" off the front page.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

What does Bush think FDR should have done at Yalta? Told Stalin to get out of Eastern Europe or we send Patton to Moscow?

[sgtclub]

Some Christians should practice the magnanimity of the strong rather than cultivate the grievances of the weak. But many Christians are joining today's scramble for the status of victims. There is much lamentation about various "assaults" on "people of faith." Christians are indeed experiencing some petty insults and indignities concerning things such as restrictions on school Christmas observances. But their persecution complex is unbecoming because it is unrealistic

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/will1.asp

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
What does Bush think FDR should have done at Yalta? Told Stalin to get out of Eastern Europe or we send Patton to Moscow?

We had the bomb and they did not. It would have been a very short war.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Spanky
We had the bomb and they did not. It would have been a very short war.

But not the political capital to use it against our gallant Russian allies, led by good old jovial Uncle Joe. Russia was a valued ally and friend.

The people of the US had just had four plus years of wartime propaganda shoved down our throats. Watch some old movies or look at some Time or Life magazines from the war years some time. It wasn't like we were stuck in "1984," were we could switch from hating Eurasia to Eastasia on a moment's notice.

Hindsight is 20-20.

[Valentine]

Iran is obviously next.

Let me know if you have any ideas as to how we can actually prevent the Orwellian infrastructure from kicking into full gear. I'm convinced they want a dirty bomb to go off soon and that Iran is next. President Bush's invasion has turned Iraq into a recruiting and training ground for anti-U.S. terrorists. Its clear that our policies in the Middle East fuel Islamic resentment. Did you see what happened today? The Iraqi resistance ('insurgents') knocked off 50+ people. The Iraq insurgency is growing in size and complexity by the week... with daily attacks increasing 240 percent just in the last month.

The situation, in other words, is TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL. One hundred fifty thousand American troops are tied down by a few thousand lightly armed insurgents. The recent Iraq election was won by Shi'ites allied with Iran. U.S. casualties continue to mount, and our troops can seldom tell friend from foe. Why isn't Bush looking for a way out of the greatest strategic blunder in American history? Why, instead, are Bush/the pro-Israel Zionists on this board and this corporate controlled government doing all they can to spread the conflict into Syria and Iran?

Does Cheney and co. (Bush, Baker, et. al ... and David R.?) really want that suitake nuke/dirty bomb to go off this soon?

Is the infrastructure ready yet?


- V.

ps. Some visuals for your consideration and contemplation:

http://www.bushflash.com/antiwar2.html

http://www.bushflash.com/liberation.html


http://www.bushflash.com/strangelove.html

http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html


http://www.bushflash.com/occupied.html

http://www.bushflash.com/ihr.html