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Anne Elk · 11-02-2007, 01:03 AM

Now that Torre has signed will the Dodgers become the west coast version of the Yankees?

Replaced_Texan · 11-02-2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Speaking of Jesus (and apologies if this has already been talked about today) but the "I'm glad soldiers are dead" placard waving church folk in Kansas that I think RT was ambivalent about shutting up (freedom of speech)....was hit with an 11 million jury verdict. Assuming it holds up on appeal, does anyone know if this presumably tiny church in Kansas has insurance to pay that puppy? Can they personally go after whatever people are in whatever scary ownership mechanism they have in place for the balance?

Linky: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,3389889.story

It was the jailing for flag desecration that I objected to. This jury verdict I applaud and have absolutely no problem with. I hope more people sue the shit out of the church and the members that show up to the funerals individually.

Replaced_Texan · 11-02-2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally posted by LessinSF
In CA, such insurance would be illegal and unenforcable because they were hit with intentional infliction of emotional distress and punitive damages, and you cannot insure intentional acts or punis. They might have Bermuda insurance (where such things are allowed), but I doubt it.

Same in Texas. A girl a few years back tried to go with negligent infliction of emotional distress to go after the insurance policy since the individual frat members that videotaped and distributed her having sex with one of the members were pretty judgement proof. Supreme Court didn't think the emotional distress was as much negligent as intentional.

Atticus Grinch · 11-02-2007, 03:54 AM

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Originally posted by LessinSF
In CA, such insurance would be illegal and unenforcable because they were hit with intentional infliction of emotional distress and punitive damages, and you cannot insure intentional acts or punis. They might have Bermuda insurance (where such things are allowed), but I doubt it.

For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.

1 Timothy 6:7-8.

Atticus Grinch · 11-02-2007, 04:14 AM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Same in Texas. A girl a few years back tried to go with negligent infliction of emotional distress to go after the insurance policy since the individual frat members that videotaped and distributed her having sex with one of the members were pretty judgement proof. Supreme Court didn't think the emotional distress was as much negligent as intentional.

I don't know if anyone else here has experience suing frats, but FWIW in terms of the lengths they will go to avoid responsibility, and the utter shamelessness with which they will throw their "brothers" to the fucking wolves, they are surpassed only by the Cosa Nostra (which, ahem, I have not sued) and the Roman Catholic Church (which I have).

SlaveNoMore · 11-02-2007, 04:33 AM

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Anne Elk
Now that Torre has signed will the Dodgers become the west coast version of the Yankees?

Ridiculously high payroll and unable to win a playoff series?

Dodgers already had that.

PS - Pity poor, poor Scott Proctor, who thought he escaped Torre's middle-reliever wrath with his arm [almost] intact.

Hank Chinaski · 11-02-2007, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I don't know if anyone else here has experience suing frats, but FWIW in terms of the lengths they will go to avoid responsibility, and the utter shamelessness with which they will throw their "brothers" to the fucking wolves, they are surpassed only by the Cosa Nostra (which, ahem, I have not sued) and the Roman Catholic Church (which I have).

translation: I was an altar boy as a child.

Diane_Keaton · 11-02-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
It was the jailing for flag desecration that I objected to. This jury verdict I applaud and have absolutely no problem with. I hope more people sue the shit out of the church and the members that show up to the funerals individually.

Oh yeah. Now I remember. Well, let's assume judgment is upheld on appeal but the award is reduced to some fathomable number, like......5 million. I've never been clear on what you can go after to satisfy a judgment, except the stuff you hear about your house being immune from debt collection in Florida (or maybe that's bankruptcy....whatever) and a few stories here and there about OJ as a judgment debtor.

Translation: I'm not a real attorney, don't know how legal stuff works in real life and even had to hire a lawyer to close on my apt.

Pretty Little Flower · 11-02-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Fugee
Those Phelps people just make me crazy.

I kind of like them. They are sort of like the G.G. Allin of the Christian right.

Just took my RHR.

TOTALLY. KICKED. HANK'S. ASS!

Hank Chinaski · 11-02-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I kind of like them. They are sort of like the G.G. Allin of the Christian right.

Just took my RHR.

TOTALLY. KICKED. HANK'S. ASS!

did I mention my 60 was metric system? unless I have the conversion off, that's like 48 in US beats.

sebastian_dangerfield · 11-02-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I don't know if anyone else here has experience suing frats, but FWIW in terms of the lengths they will go to avoid responsibility, and the utter shamelessness with which they will throw their "brothers" to the fucking wolves, they are surpassed only by the Cosa Nostra (which, ahem, I have not sued) and the Roman Catholic Church (which I have).

The fuckers accused me of embezzling $10,000.00.

They were going to close our house any day, so I set up an account to keep paying for social functions. People have to drink. Bastards sent out a newsletter smearing me to all past alumni.

My parents were so proud to get that. I should have sued the dickheads for defamation.

sebastian_dangerfield · 11-02-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I don't know if anyone else here has experience suing frats, but FWIW in terms of the lengths they will go to avoid responsibility, and the utter shamelessness with which they will throw their "brothers" to the fucking wolves, they are surpassed only by the Cosa Nostra (which, ahem, I have not sued) and the Roman Catholic Church (which I have).

I like how the Roman Catholic Church in Philadelphia escaped all liability on child molestation cases on a statute of limitations defense, despite the "discovery" rule.

I wonder what politician jimmied that bullshit through the court system.

sebastian_dangerfield · 11-02-2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Oh yeah. Now I remember. Well, let's assume judgment is upheld on appeal but the award is reduced to some fathomable number, like......5 million. I've never been clear on what you can go after to satisfy a judgment, except the stuff you hear about your house being immune from debt collection in Florida (or maybe that's bankruptcy....whatever) and a few stories here and there about OJ as a judgment debtor.

Translation: I'm not a real attorney, don't know how legal stuff works in real life and even had to hire a lawyer to close on my apt.

You place liens on all real property owned by the defendants and move to sell it. But chances are that Phelps has structured the ownshership of most of the Defendants' assets as jointly held or tenancy by entireties (husband and wife) so that going through the execution process will be extremely difficult, if not impossible.

My guess is the guy will get nothing but some lousy equipment and personal property belonging to the Defendants.

Pretty Little Flower · 11-02-2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
did I mention my 60 was metric system? unless I have the conversion off, that's like 48 in US beats.

You did the conversion backwards. Get to a doctor, quickly!

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 11-02-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
I don't know if anyone else here has experience suing frats, but FWIW in terms of the lengths they will go to avoid responsibility...

Why you expect responsibility from Frats is beside me - I understand we expect both the Catholic Church and Cosa Nostra to have more than minimum standards of decency, but aren't frats all about semi-organized irresponsibility?

By the way, where does the Klan fall on your scale - worse than frats, better than frats, or pretty much the same thing?