Keeping it civil instead of returning to our dark ways

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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Okay. I resized it. But I don't have your email. So I sent it to Replaced Texan. Why? I don't know. She is now the keeper of the kitty. NTTAWWT.

Diane (I paint your rooms; I resize your kitties; I am your little bitch) Keaton

I will need a minimum of 12 hours to consider the change to the avatar.

I am fond of the kitty. I don't think it's a particularly cuddly kitty. It looks like it's on the verge of attack unless a calming influence is applied IMMEDIATELY.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Something I noticed yesterday I thought was quite curious: when introducing Ms. Rice as future Secretary of State and Ms. Spellings as future Secretary of Education, the President, when handing over the podium to each woman for her to make remarks, gave each woman a light hug and a kiss on the cheek. Two days in a row. I didn't see highlights of Mr. Gonzales's introduction, so I have no idea if he got a kiss as well, although I suspect not, since that Phelps guy isn't currently picketting the White House.

I'm just wondering if this is really appropriate. Not the idea of the polite kiss between friends in general, but whether it's appropriate for THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

Sexist fuck.

Rice is a BLACK WOMAN as SecState! Spellings isn't black, but she's a WOMAN!

Get out there and show some hoopla, goddammit!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Right Wing Conspiracy.

The cartoons, the lack of hoopla for the first femal/black SOS (especially as compared to Albright), the parrot talk, etc.

How odd that everyone is letting their view of Rice be affected by what she's done (or hasn't done) for the last four years.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Right Wing Conspiracy.

... the parrot talk, etc.

I for one think the parrot talk is baseless. Rice and Bush are always saying the same thing not because Rice is parrotting the President: it's the other way around. Which is appropriate, actually. She's much more qualified to do foreign policy analysis than Bush is, even if I disagree with many of her analyses. Not a knock on Bush: he just hasn't spent his entire life doing foreign policy.


As to the lack of fanfare for her being the first black woman secretary of state, she's not the first woman, she's not the first black person, the combination just doesn't carry as much oomph, although it has been noted in the media as a first and given due. Generally, I think the gender and race of an appointee are gradually get less play over time (I'd think Republicans would see this as a good thing), with a last hurrah for the issue when the top spot is filled by a) a minority for the first time and b) a woman for the first time. Perhaps that person will be one and the same, getting it out of the way all at once. Rice2012 anyone?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ttpical fucking lawyer shit. Matthew Shepard was killed because he was gay. The heartland hates gays. There's tons of evidence of it. i don't have it here, but you're a fool if you don't recognize it. You're story has no real support. You're a fucking apologist for everything. Your have a history of trying to cite facts which supports specious positions. Thats what you lawyers and left wingers do - you spin things. You know he was killed because he was gay. I know it. America knows it. Why don't you just...

Shutup.

I'm talking, SHUT UP!!!

SHUT UP!!!

Kill his mic.

If you're going to post crap like this, the least you could do is clean out your PM box so that I can tell you off privately instead of making the rest of the board listen.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If you're going to post crap like this, the least you could do is clean out your PM box so that I can tell you off privately instead of making the rest of the board listen.

Don't worry about us.

Oh, wait a sec.



Ok, now. Go ahead.

[Sidd Finch]

Congress is voting to increase the debt limit by another $800 billion. Not that they have much choice, but they opted not to impose any conditions of fiscal responsibility.

"Completion of the debt limit measure would raise the government's borrowing limit to $8.18 trillion. That is $2.23 trillion higher than when Bush became president, and more than eight times the debt President Reagan faced when he took office in 1981."

The above illustrates one reason why the facile response -- "but the deficit isn't at an all-time high in GDP terms" -- so badly misses the point.

Sigh. At least I'll get another huge tax cut.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Fugee
You actually think there is such an episode? I searched the ABC site and the only reference to Matthew Shepard is this one. A Google search comes up with a bunch of references to this ABC press release but none of them are on an ABC site or a hard news site. I smell a hoax.

You mean Slave Lied?


(That could explain why he's refusing to answer my question about how he could have seen the "recent" 20/20 episode that [supposedly] airs next Friday.)

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Ttpical fucking lawyer shit. Matthew Shepard was killed because he was gay. The heartland hates gays. There's tons of evidence of it. i don't have it here, but you're a fool if you don't recognize it. You're story has no real support. You're a fucking apologist for everything. Your have a history of trying to cite facts which supports specious positions. Thats what you lawyers and left wingers do - you spin things. You know he was killed because he was gay. I know it. America knows it. Why don't you just...

Shutup.

I'm talking, SHUT UP!!!

SHUT UP!!!

Kill his mic.

Mr. Dangerfield, I am paying for this microphone.



(Take a deep breath, Sebby. Step back from the keyboard. Have a smoke. Nail a secretary. Do something to chill out. We all love you.)

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Congress is voting to increase the debt limit by another $800 billion. Not that they have much choice, but they opted not to impose any conditions of fiscal responsibility.

"Completion of the debt limit measure would raise the government's borrowing limit to $8.18 trillion. That is $2.23 trillion higher than when Bush became president, and more than eight times the debt President Reagan faced when he took office in 1981."

The above illustrates one reason why the facile response -- "but the deficit isn't at an all-time high in GDP terms" -- so badly misses the point.

Sigh. At least I'll get another huge tax cut.

I ment to post my dismay over this. As I understand it, they increased the limit well above what was necessary. Fucking drunken sailors.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I ment to post my dismay over this. As I understand it, they increased the limit well above what was necessary. Fucking drunken sailors.

They are your drunken sailors; this is what Redland wants.

Spend, spend, spend.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
They are your drunken sailors; this is what Redland wants.

Spend, spend, spend.

I don't think Redland wants this and I know there has been some grumblings lately by back and middle benchers to do something about it.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I don't think Redland wants this and I know there has been some grumblings lately by back and middle benchers to do something about it.

The DeLay thing has me a bit more pissed at the moment. Its pretty much the height of hypocricy for social conservatives to prepare for his indictment by circling the wagons. The debt I'll get over. Inflation is going to mootify it anyway.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I don't think Redland wants this and I know there has been some grumblings lately by back and middle benchers to do something about it.

Let me repeat:

• In decades past, increasing Republican dominance of the House and Senate would have meant more fiscal discipline. But Republicans increasingly dominate the states that are net drains on Federal taxes—the Southern and Great Plains states—while fading in the coastal states that produce a disproportionate share of federal revenue. (It's Republicans, not Democrats, who are sucking on the federal teat.) What Amity Shlaes quaintly identified in today's Financial Times as the "southern culture of tax cutting" has been married to the southern culture of failing to generate wealth and the southern culture of depending on federal largesse. [Hi Burger!] The offspring is an unsightly deficit monster.

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You voted for it.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

You voted for it.

Let me repeat: I voted almost exclusively on foreign policy grounds.