Merry Generic Winter Day-Off With No Religious Content

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
as I said, the D-line guy who hit Manning is at fault. I was trying to help Ty frame the argument I thought he wanted to make.

Understood. Does that mean I can't respond even though I know your stance?

TM

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Understood. Does that mean I can't respond even though I know your stance?

TM

no. but I am 5-3 in fights with you, and I want the socks keeping score to realize that was an exhibition.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
no. but I am 5-3 in fights with you, and I want the socks keeping score to realize that was an exhibition.

What is your record against me?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
What is your record against me?

do you need that in Metric or English units?

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
do you need that in Metric or English units?

Ironweak is the Eurotrash wannabe, not me. I just like soccer.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

You keep saying this. What you really want to say is, "I don't think a defender should be automatically penalized for putting his hands on the face of the quarterback. Referees should have the discretion to determine if it was intentional and/or significant. So, I have a problem with the rule itself, not its application in the final 90 seconds of the game."

TM

I have real mixed feelings about the rule. In HS I played defensive line. Often in practice the QB was a "no-hit." We couldn't touch him- or actually we were supposed to touch him as a show we got to him. Once I'm stringing him out on an option and he pitches and then the fuck blocked me- hard- any other blocker would have gotten shivered and dumped, but I wasn't supposed to hit him. so I have a strong anti-QB bias. Thank Brian Nelson, that little fucking prima donna.

I think it is a really tough request to ask a defender to go all out against some 350 lb. guy, get by based upon speed and leverage and brute strength- then quickly decide whether you can still hit the QB, and where you are likely to hit him if you reach out and do.

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I have real mixed feelings about the rule. In HS I played defensive line. Often in practice the QB was a "no-hit." We couldn't touch him- or actually we were supposed to touch him as a show we got to him. Once I'm stringing him out on an option and he pitches and then the fuck blocked me- hard- any other blocker would have gotten shivered and dumped, but I wasn't supposed to hit him. so I have a strong anti-QB bias. Thank Brian Nelson, that little fucking prima donna.

I think it is a really tough request to ask a defender to go all out against some 350 lb. guy, get by based upon speed and leverage and brute strength- then quickly decide whether you can still hit the QB, and where you are likely to hit him if you reach out and do.

Translation:

I have real mixed feelings about the rule. In HS I played squash. Often, after practice, the QB of the football team would come by to give us a little "friendly hit." But we couldn't touch him- actually we were supposed to thank him as a show of gratitude for going easy on us. Once I'm exhausted after a brutal squash practice and then the fuck comes up behind me and shoved me- hard. Any other student would have gotten reported to the principal ASAP, but I wasn't supposed to tell on him, much less hit hit him. so I have a strong anti-QB bias. Thank Brian Nelson, that big bully.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
Translation:

I have real mixed feelings about the rule. In HS I played squash. Often, after practice, the QB of the football team would come by to give us a little "friendly hit." But we couldn't touch him- actually we were supposed to thank him as a show of gratitude for going easy on us. Once I'm exhausted after a brutal squash practice and then the fuck comes up behind me and shoved me- hard. Any other student would have gotten reported to the principal ASAP, but I wasn't supposed to tell on him, much less hit hit him. so I have a strong anti-QB bias. Thank Brian Nelson, that big bully.

fuck. Hank 1 PLF 7

[Adder]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I have real mixed feelings about the rule. In HS I played defensive line. Often in practice the QB was a "no-hit." We couldn't touch him- or actually we were supposed to touch him as a show we got to him. Once I'm stringing him out on an option and he pitches and then the fuck blocked me- hard- any other blocker would have gotten shivered and dumped, but I wasn't supposed to hit him. so I have a strong anti-QB bias. Thank Brian Nelson, that little fucking prima donna.

I think it is a really tough request to ask a defender to go all out against some 350 lb. guy, get by based upon speed and leverage and brute strength- then quickly decide whether you can still hit the QB, and where you are likely to hit him if you reach out and do.

I agree. Although I may have the same anti-QB bias. Not because one hit me hard enough for me to care (I actually was a defensive lineman) but because it is part of that game of football. If you can't hit the QB or receivers, giving them cause of the slightest bit of doubt every time they release the ball, or run a route over the middle, you can't play defefense.

It is already a brutal and violent game. People get injured constantly (most frequently the guys who don't get any special protection). Pretending to give a little extra measure of safety to the prima donnas will not fix that.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I have real mixed feelings about the rule. In HS I played defensive line. Often in practice the QB was a "no-hit." We couldn't touch him- or actually we were supposed to touch him as a show we got to him. Once I'm stringing him out on an option and he pitches and then the fuck blocked me- hard- any other blocker would have gotten shivered and dumped, but I wasn't supposed to hit him. so I have a strong anti-QB bias. Thank Brian Nelson, that little fucking prima donna.

I think it is a really tough request to ask a defender to go all out against some 350 lb. guy, get by based upon speed and leverage and brute strength- then quickly decide whether you can still hit the QB, and where you are likely to hit him if you reach out and do.

I agree. And some of the calls this year on late hits were just ridiculous. The automatic rule is stupid. The refs should be given the discretion to make a call if they see an intentional and significantly harsh hand/arm to the head.

Then again, I can see why they are changing the rules to give quarterbacks more protection. It's not like it used to be. These lineman and linebackers are so much faster and stronger than they used to be that quarterbacks, who are often sitting ducks, are in much more danger than they ever were. I mean these guys are all over 270 pounds and lots of them run sub 5 second 40s. You can't change quarterbacks every quarter.

TM

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Adder
Pretending to give a little extra measure of safety to the prima donnas will not fix that.

It is too bad the XFL did not survive.

[Gattigap]

I'm still trying to figure this one out, but my initial reaction is that this Google tool that graphically represents a bunch of global statistics is pretty friggin' cool.

[Adder]

Any thoughts on these:

Best motion picture of the year
Babel
The Departed
Letters from Iwo Jima
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen


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Performance by an actor in a leading role
Leonardo DiCaprio, Blood Diamond
Ryan Gosling, Half Nelson
Peter O’Toole, Venus
Will Smith, The Pursuit of Happyness
Forest Whitaker, The Last King of Scotland


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Performance by an actor in a supporting role
Alan Arkin, Little Miss Sunshine
Jackie Earle Haley, Little Children
Djimon Hounsou, Blood Diamond
Eddie Murphy, Dreamgirls
Mark Wahlberg, The Departed

Achievement in directing
Babel, Alejandro González Iñárritu
The Departed, Martin Scorsese
Letters from Iwo Jima, Clint Eastwood
The Queen, Stephen Frears
United 93, Paul Greengrass


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Performance by an actress in a leading role
Penélope Cruz, Volver
Judi Dench, Notes on a Scandal
Helen Mirren, The Queen
Meryl Streep, The Devil Wears Prada
Kate Winslet, Little Children


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Performance by an actress in a supporting role
Adriana Barraza, Babel
Cate Blanchett, Notes on a Scandal
Abigail Breslin, Little Miss Sunshine
Jennifer Hudson, Dreamgirls
Rinko Kikuchi, Babel

Sadly, the only one of these movies I have seen is Little Miss Sunshine. Which was good, but, sadly, not as good as the hype i had heard. The little girl gave a good performance though.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I agree. And some of the calls this year on late hits were just ridiculous. The automatic rule is stupid. The refs should be given the discretion to make a call if they see an intentional and significantly harsh hand/arm to the head.

Then again, I can see why they are changing the rules to give quarterbacks more protection. It's not like it used to be. These lineman and linebackers are so much faster and stronger than they used to be that quarterbacks, who are often sitting ducks, are in much more danger than they ever were. I mean these guys are all over 270 pounds and lots of them run sub 5 second 40s. You can't change quarterbacks every quarter.

TM

As a fan of the team with the most sacked quarterback in the NFL for the last five years, I don't think that they're too soft on quarterbacks.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
As a fan of the team with the most sacked quarterback in the NFL for the last five years, I don't think that they're too soft on quarterbacks.

as someone from the city where the QB with the most interceptions played healthy this entire season, I dissent.