Fashion Board 11-2-03 - 12-09-03

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by bilmore
You need more information to make this choice. Specifically, you need her reaction.

Tonight, you stand in front of your window naked.

Dissent. Given the eerie resemblance to one of the plotlines in Armistead Maupin's "Tales of the City," this can only end badly, with a plot twist like O. Henry meets "The Story of O."

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
The "Mentoring" programs to bring non-traditional laywer people into the fold are truly, truly bullshit and not worth fretting over.

Good to know. I'll tell all my friends who've benefited from them by actually feeling more comfortable at work (and who have, in turn, offered to do the same for others) that they're completely wasting their time.

TM

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by mmm3587
Is providing sex, occasional companionship and willingness to handle some household and other chores an appropriate role for a person in a marriage? I say no, but I think many people still think so. Those are the kinds of things people should talk about before they get married, though.

What the fuck is "providing sex"? I usually like fucking my wife, and she likes fucking me. If it ever was or ever got to the point where anyone was "providing" sex, I'd call it quits. Marriage ain't a fucking business. I hate her sometimes and she feels the same, but we stick it out because there's more of a bond than any of the annoyance either of us inflicts on the other (and yes, I'm a pain to live with). Your friends don't provide you with companship - they're your friends... There's a certain, well, love that exists there. I don't know what it is, but you care for them and they for you on a certain level. You can't analyze or dissect the emotions that make people friends or lovers.

The sort of cunt or sumbag who marries because he/she knows the SO will make her/him comfortable is better thrown under a moving subway train. These are like the people who butter up to you for connections, but wouldn't give you the time of day if you couldn't push business their way, but even more insidious because "users" don't usually go so far as to breed with and pretend to love the people they use. Golddiggers are the lowest of the low.

If you married for money, you're a prostitute, plain and simple.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Good to know. I'll tell all my friends who've benefited from them by actually feeling more comfortable at work (and who have, in turn, offered to do the same for others) that they're completely wasting their time.

TM

Mentoring = A corporate attempt to engender a sort of camaraderie or friendship which otherwise wouldn't exist among people who really don't want to be together but are forced to do so for economi reasons.

Now, TM, before you slam me, the above comment doesn't apply to a unique program intended to help people of backgrounds uncommon in the traditional discriminatory legal environment. My comment applies to the stupid programs where they say "here's Bob, he's a brilliant partner - he kinda seems like you, so we figured he'd be your mentor. Any question you have, ask Bob. Oh, and once a month we'll have mentor/protege cocktails in conference room 7 and we'll show some films about the rich history of the firm." That's worthless.

[Dualit]

Originally posted by Aloha Mr. Learned Hand
What if the fatass guy appears at his door? NTTAWWT.

He is safe tonight as I have conflicting plans.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by dtb
Why is it personally insulting if it doesn't apply to you?

So if I tell you "mothers who work secretly hate their children," you won't be insulted because you know that doesn't apply to you?

If I tell Thurgreed "black people are stupid," he shouldn't be insulted because he knows he's not stupid?

Interesting.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Good to know. I'll tell all my friends who've benefited from them by actually feeling more comfortable at work (and who have, in turn, offered to do the same for others) that they're completely wasting their time.

Hey, if someone benefitted, super. I'm just surprised. I've found the formal, official, firm-organized sort overwhelmingly useless compared to the informal sort, which I, too, have found very, very useful indeed. I've just found that most of those sr. people with an interest in reaching out and showing jrs the ropes to make them more comfortable and able to cope will do it whether assigned to or not.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
All in good time, my man. I am looking forward to my firm's first annual retreat for Unwed Ladies in their Thirties and Up. Should be pretty sweet. They are handing out the book "Oops! I forgot to have a baby" and throwing a botox party for us! And the goodie bag is gonna include a lifetime subscription to Its Just Lunch! You cannot believe how long we spinsters have fought for this. Sometimes we think the men dont' notice us bc we are nothing but wrinkly, over the hill hags, sporting the stench of dying ovaries, so its a refreshing coup. Of course, we outnumber the minorities (if you don't count asians), and are higher up on the food chain, but you keep fighting the good fight.

Paigow: Here ya go. Since I know you're not big on the reading, I'll let you in on a little secret. It's soon to be a major motion picture.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield


If you married for money, you're a prostitute, plain and simple.

Let's be honest. If the primary reason that you marry someone is anything other than that you love them, you are setting yourself up to be disappointed, at the very least.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Actually I've known several men (with and without kids) whose wives decided they should stop working against the advice and counter to the preference of their husbands. In at least one case, that was part of the reason for their later divorce.

Me too. Periodically my wife sort of apologizes for not working, which is silly -- it's not like she's not working hard or not doing something important, and it's not like we risk being out on the street. And I love my job.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Pretty Little Flower
I find it a useful mental exercise when reading the posts of this sock to pretend that the words the sock has written are lyrics to a Melt Banana song, and then to sing the post accordingly. It helps with readability, if not comprehension.

Does Melt Banana have anything to do with the Banana-Grabber character, and animation and theme park rights thereto?

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I'm assuming a fairly low standard for "working ok" - but the great country of Canada has worked ok since 1867 and our whole existence is predicated on maintaining our divisions.

All together now:

We're a MOSAIC, not a melting pot.

Good grief.

[dtb]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
So if I tell you "mothers who work secretly hate their children," you won't be insulted because you know that doesn't apply to you?

If I tell Thurgreed "black people are stupid," he shouldn't be insulted because he knows he's not stupid?

Honestly, I'm not going to fall for this. If I really thought that you meant such statements to apply to all [mothers][blacks][whatever], I'd just think you weren't worth talking to. If you made such a statement in the context of a discussion where there are legitimate examples of what you're saying, and not just some friend of yours (although I'm not quite sure what kind of context the "black people are stupid" would come up...), no I would not feel personally offended just because you didn't make a legal disclaimer.

But you knew that.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
the stupid programs where they say "here's Bob, he's a brilliant partner - he kinda seems like you, so we figured he'd be your mentor. Any question you have, ask Bob.

I seen several people helped by this type program, have been helped by it, and have helped others. Granted it needs to be set up for the right reason and use the right mentors. If done properly it can help otherwise good lawyers avoid doing stuff that would harm a career.

Surviving in a big firm isn't always obvious, and for most of us is more important that trust and estate. It isn't taught in law school though.

The right mentor can help you out a jam with an unreasonable partner, can at least help you anticipate what partners to worry about/when to worry/ and how to CYA. Granted the cocktail parties are useless.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Why not? Who the hell thought this guy up? I've got to buy presents not only from me and the baltspouse, but also from Santa for years, only to be rewarded by having to break it to a sobbing baltspawn that there is indeed no Santa Claus, except in our hearts, a metaphorical concept she will be too young to grasp at the same time she will be too old to ignore the many signs pointing to Santa's lack of physical reality. And then, just to make her feel better, I've got to still keep up the Santa presents so she can pretend she doesn't know for years more.

I heard yesterday about how some radio morning show had plugged for a week that they were going to be making a big special announcement for the whole family. Turns out, the announcement that they made, with much fanfare and hullaballoo, was:

"THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS."

Parents are up in arms, the morning show clowns are apparently in trouble with the station, etc. etc. I think as far as lame morning show stunts go, this one isn't bad.