General discussion - Mom and Dad Esq.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
math in public education is frustrating until the kid gets to late middle school, then the kid can get in advanced math. then come 11th grade they get blindsiding by the SAT and ACT which assume the 11th grader JUST had trig, and bases math questions on that. Meanwhile all these kids in calculus can't remember that shit.

THEN the kid takes the college math placement and they want to put them into trig.

best thing to do is just not listen.

It's true, but I'm still grading you down for the answer on areas.

I learned trig when I was about 12. My father would take me up to Fort Drum and take me out on the practice range where they would fire the howitzers. If I got the answer right, the broken down jeep out in the field would get blown up. Much better incentive than grades.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
best thing to do is just not listen.

This explains so much. I feel like Chazz Palminteri when he suddenly realized who Verbal Kint really was.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I know the Republicans who require these tests believe you're better off with more money regardless of how you get it, but you'd think they'd at least have the precision to note what they want to round by.

Since this isn't the PB board, I'll just ask a factual question: What is the highest elected office held by a Republican in Massachusetts today?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski

THEN the kid takes the college math placement and they want to put them into trig.

If the kid is taking calc, shouldn't he take the AP and get a score that places him out (or up) in college math?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
If the kid is taking calc, shouldn't he take the AP and get a score that places him out (or up) in college math?

horrible idea. you blow an easy 3.5 or 4.0 from your freshman GPA. i think AP is just a bad idea. I know kids who took Psych AP in HS. How do you pass on taking Psych at college?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
This explains so much. I feel like Chazz Palminteri when he suddenly realized who Verbal Kint really was.

for the last time, I am openly a nuisance sock. I make no bones about it. when i want to convey actual substance I use my notfrommensa sock.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Since this isn't the PB board, I'll just ask a factual question: What is the highest elected office held by a Republican in Massachusetts today?

We're hoping this will soon be history given that we've finally taken back the corner office in the state. However, there's still this little bill passed down in Washington a few years ago championing this funny little thing called "standards based education" - you know, standards like charging people more than they owe in the name of "rounding". I forget the guy's name, but I believe he took office when they rounded up his vote in Florida.l

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
We're hoping this will soon be history given that we've finally taken back the corner office in the state. However, there's still this little bill passed down in Washington a few years ago championing this funny little thing called "standards based education" - you know, standards like charging people more than they owe in the name of "rounding". I forget the guy's name, but I believe he took office when they rounded up his vote in Florida.l

Well that's all well and good, but the states are the ones responsible for developing the tests to comply with NCLB.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Well that's all well and good, but the states are the ones responsible for developing the tests to comply with NCLB.

Yes, and they have the same kinds of latitude often afforded to states when a federal bureaucracy annually determines whether their implementation has been compliant enough to remain eligible for funds. You've seen similar marketplace effects with speed limits and BAC thresholds.

Federalism!
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out --
Federalism!

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Yes, and they have the same kinds of latitude often afforded to states when a federal bureaucracy annually determines whether their implementation has been compliant enough to remain eligible for funds. You've seen similar marketplace effects with speed limits and BAC thresholds.

Federalism!
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out --
Federalism!

you think bush forced Mass. to use an ambiguous math question?

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
you think bush forced Mass. to use an ambiguous math question?

The idiot who came up with those questions was probably one the payroll of one of the big testing services - all the states pretty much contract with the same folks to provide their tests. And the test was likely reviewed at several levels by educational professionals, including a bunch from Massachusetts.

One of my teachers said it best, when he said the standardized tests were very good at figuring out whether students were at least as smart as the testers, but, then, what kind of fools choose to write tests for a living?

The idiot who pushing mandating the use of standardized tests to replace the teachers' judgment, well, you guys will be living down the last eight years of that guy for a while.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
The idiot who pushing mandating the use of standardized tests to replace the teachers' judgment, well, you guys will be living down the last eight years of that guy for a while.

I know Kennedy was complicit in this thing, too.

So how come the Rs are so fond of something Ted Kennedy signed onto?

[cheval de frise]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Yes, and they have the same kinds of latitude often afforded to states when a federal bureaucracy annually determines whether their implementation has been compliant enough to remain eligible for funds. You've seen similar marketplace effects with speed limits and BAC thresholds.

Federalism!
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out --
Federalism!

Nice Rush pastiche.

Maybe the feds could make themselves useful and mandate the teaching of evolution. Or at least a yearly showing of Smokey and the Bandit--the one with the chimp.

Sorry if this is PB material...

CDF

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by cheval de frise
Nice Rush pastiche.

Maybe the feds could make themselves useful and mandate the teaching of evolution. Or at least a yearly showing of Smokey and the Bandit--the one with the chimp.

Sorry if this is PB material...

CDF

remember, although not mandated, the schools have to take time to teach how cruel to animals meat is.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

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link (w/ more)