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01-23-2007, 06:54 PM
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#3991
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the poor-man's spuckler
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Originally posted by taxwonk
This makes sense. Well, up until the links to People Who Behave Worse Than Us.
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And if one bypasses the fact that Abu Ghraib prison was one of Saddam's prisons that would appropriately fall in the "understandable bulldozing" category.
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01-23-2007, 07:00 PM
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#3992
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I am beyond a rank!
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
For starters:
AI, in a 2005 report that quickly tosses aside the genocide in Darfur, then goes on a lengthy diatribe about how Gitmo "has become the Gulag of our times" I'm sure those who survived the gulag might disagree.
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGPOL100142005
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Here's Durbin, as reported on that mainstream site Al Jareera:
"US Senator Dick Durbin on Wednesday refused to apologise for comments he made on the Senate floor referring to Nazis, Soviet gulags and a "mad regime" like Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge in Cambodia"...
"This administration should apologise to the American people for abandoning the Geneva Conventions and authorising torture techniques that put our troops at risk and make Americans less secure," Durbin had said in a statement on Wednesday evening.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/ar...rchiveId=13014
If reports like that on Al Jazeera don't lend support to the enemy, I sure as hell don't know what does
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The HuffPost and Kos - please, practically every other entry. I'm too busy to waste my time doing the string search.
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Where does Durbin say that our troops are torturers?
As for AI, well, it's AI...
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01-23-2007, 07:08 PM
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#3993
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: PenskeWorld
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Open Promise to the Board
I [sincerely] don't want any more Clinton presidents. If Hillary wins, I'm going to leave the country and spend the rest of my life in my ancestral home in Sicily.
Probably making wine, praying to the babyjesus and tending to my armaments. And the sex.
This, I promise to you, my PB family, friends and bete noires. And unlike the lying Dems, eg: Streisand, A. Baldwin, et al., I will not renege on this promise. You have my word as a Mod.
Best Regards,
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01-23-2007, 07:15 PM
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#3994
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the poor-man's spuckler
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Originally posted by Adder
Where does Durbin say that our troops are torturers?
As for AI, well, it's AI...
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Yeah, I think that Durbin was talking about the CIA interrogators rather than the Marine guards.
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01-23-2007, 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Cletus Miller
Yeah, I think that Durbin was talking about the CIA interrogators rather than the Marine guards.
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He also said that the adminstration authorized it, not that it actually was happening.
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01-23-2007, 07:34 PM
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#3996
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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SOTU
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Sebby, its sad that you miss the big picture. It's all part of a whole. Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah, Syria, the Sunni/Baathists in Iraq, the Wahhabbis, the Saudi royal family, the Mullahs in Iran, the Islamofacists throughout the region, Al Qaeda, et al. They have a common goal, subjugate and destroy the West, its values and freedoms. First stop Israel, next America (Europe has already capitulated). The varying factions of this coalition of evil might not always get along and it might not be a fully coordinated conspiracy, but the common end allows for cooperation where paths intersect. Saddam and bin Laden probably never broke bread, but in that world the game is not 6 degrees of separation, its more like 2.
That someone as bright as you fails to see the danger is motivqting me to go out and buy another couple of assault weapons for my arsenal......we are opening the door to the enemy and the clock is ticking.....
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You forgot to include the Jewish Banking Monopoly, the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission, and the Freemasons
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01-23-2007, 07:35 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Insight fights back
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01-23-2007, 07:36 PM
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#3998
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Originally posted by Diane_Keaton
Read deeper and you'll see you're being corrected for saying "Islamofascism" (your term, not mine) instead of Islamic fundamentalism.
Anyhow, you said the fact of Hussein's secular rule nullifies the argument that the war is against Islamic fundamentalism. But..if there were already Islamic fundamentalists in Iraq bent on destroying the U.S.*, how would a few more years of Hussein's secular rule have helped? Buying time?
(Unless you buy the idea that there were no fundamentalists in Iraq before the war and the U.S. "created" them).
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Hussein was killing them as fast as he could.
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01-23-2007, 07:36 PM
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#3999
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WacKtose Intolerant
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Originally posted by taxwonk
You forgot to include the Jewish Banking Monopoly, the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission, and the Freemasons
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That's a really sad post, even for you. And incredibily disrespectful of the thousands of Americans and Israelis who have died at the terroristic hands of the groups I cited.
I am officially embarrassed for you.
Are you drinking?
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I wish more people was alive like me
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01-23-2007, 07:38 PM
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#4000
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
For starters:
AI, in a 2005 report that quickly tosses aside the genocide in Darfur, then goes on a lengthy diatribe about how Gitmo "has become the Gulag of our times" I'm sure those who survived the gulag might disagree.
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGPOL100142005
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Here's Durbin, as reported on that mainstream site Al Jareera:
"US Senator Dick Durbin on Wednesday refused to apologise for comments he made on the Senate floor referring to Nazis, Soviet gulags and a "mad regime" like Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge in Cambodia"...
"This administration should apologise to the American people for abandoning the Geneva Conventions and authorising torture techniques that put our troops at risk and make Americans less secure," Durbin had said in a statement on Wednesday evening.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/ar...rchiveId=13014
If reports like that on Al Jazeera don't lend support to the enemy, I sure as hell don't know what does
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The HuffPost and Kos - please, practically every other entry. I'm too busy to waste my time doing the string search.
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Okay, so after identifying six or eight sources that supposedly have called the US troops, generally, torturers.... you have now cited support for.... Well, um, zero.
AI said that the USSC had called for judicial review of prisoners at Gitmo, and none have come up for review. All true. AI then went on with stupid hyperbole about the "gulag."
Stupid? Sure. Calling all US troops "torturers"? Nope. Giving succor to the enemy? Please. Do you think the snipers and roadside bombers are reading that shit?
Durbin, same thing. He does a stupid, over-the-top attach on the Bush Admin. Not an indictment of US solders. Is that giving succor to the enemy? Yeah, right -- I can just picture Moktada's boys cheering Durbin on the streets of Baghdad.
Where's your NYTimes cite?
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01-23-2007, 07:40 PM
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WacKtose Intolerant
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Open Promise to the Board (confidential to RT)
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I [sincerely] don't want any more Clinton presidents. If Hillary wins, I'm going to leave the country and spend the rest of my life in my ancestral home in Sicily.
Probably making wine, praying to the babyjesus and tending to my armaments. And the sex.
This, I promise to you, my PB family, friends and bete noires. And unlike the lying Dems, eg: Streisand, A. Baldwin, et al., I will not renege on this promise. You have my word as a Mod.
Best Regards,
Penske
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In the unlikely event.......can I pass my Mod-ship on to Hank?
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Since I'm a righteous man, I don't eat ham;
I wish more people was alive like me
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01-23-2007, 07:41 PM
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#4002
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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Originally posted by Cletus Miller
And if one bypasses the fact that Abu Ghraib prison was one of Saddam's prisons that would appropriately fall in the "understandable bulldozing" category.
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I was referring to the people running the prison, as I believe No to the fourth was.
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01-23-2007, 07:45 PM
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#4003
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Wild Rumpus Facilitator
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SOTU
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Originally posted by Penske_Account
That's a really sad post, even for you. And incredibily disrespectful of the thousands of Americans and Israelis who have died at the terroristic hands of the groups I cited.
I am officially embarrassed for you.
Are you drinking?
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It is not often that my belief in God is shaken. But when you can call me disrespectful and not be struck by a bolt of lightning, my soul trembles ever so slightly.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
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01-23-2007, 07:46 PM
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#4004
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the poor-man's spuckler
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Quote:
Originally posted by taxwonk
I was referring to the people running the prison, as I believe No to the fourth was.
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nox4: "I can understand wanting to raze Dachau. I can understand bulldozing countless prisons in Saddam's Iraq. I would imagine Ho Chi Minh City has a couple of spots no one should have to pass by. "
That's about the people running the prisons rather than the physical prison? I guess it's too subtle a reference for me to get. Could you help me understand?
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01-23-2007, 07:47 PM
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#4005
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the poor-man's spuckler
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Originally posted by taxwonk
Have you stopped beating your wife?
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You phrased it incorrectly. The question is: "When did you stop beating your wife?"
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