Fashion Board 11-2-03 - 12-09-03

[Pinky]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Anyone know that song "I Chase The Devil" by Max Romeo, circa 1976? Is the whole song as cool as the sample Jay-Z uses on the Black Album?

No, but it's not a bad song. Jay Z speeds it up and the beat he uses is better.

You can listen here:

http://www.tigersushi.com/site/frame...jsp&RcdId=1163

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
[please! find me a man! I'd rather marry a total loser than be single!

Paigs, show some dignity. Really. You will get the mother of all hairy-backed bald-headed Viagra-snorting gold-medallion-wearing pimp-car-driving total assholes by debasing yourself this way. And you know you're reading this so just take my advice.

[bold_n_brazen]

Originally posted by Not Me
Your entire post is a rip-off of the "Find Denny a Mate" effort to marry off Dennis Kucinich, who, you may want to note, is still available.

If you google it, I am sure you can find out where to sign up for a chance to win Denny as your new hubby.

I'm sure you're wrong.

Paigow invented finding a mate.

[Aloha Mr. Learned Hand]

1. Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
- Second to Neko on my Chicago singer/songwriter crush list. If they ever were on the same bill, I'd have to be given oxygen. Seeing Liz Sat. with Mrs. Hand at one of those radio station holiday shows (bnl and Jason Mraz also on the bill).

2. new OutKast (following the herd... moo)

3. Counting Crows - Films About Ghosts

4. Uncle Tupelo - 89/93: An Anthology

5. (80's retro category) The Cars - 2 Disc Anthology

Originally posted by Not Me
Your entire post is a rip-off of the "Find Denny a Mate" effort to marry off Dennis Kucinich, who, you may want to note, is still available.

If you google it, I am sure you can find out where to sign up for a chance to win Denny as your new hubby.

Excuse me but you seem to imply (or perhaps I am just inferring) that

1) someone else who I never heard of invented this idea

and

2) I am not serious. I assure you I am.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
The sort of cunt or sumbag who marries because he/she knows the SO will make her/him comfortable is better thrown under a moving subway train. These are like the people who butter up to you for connections, but wouldn't give you the time of day if you couldn't push business their way, but even more insidious because "users" don't usually go so far as to breed with and pretend to love the people they use. Golddiggers are the lowest of the low.

If you married for money, you're a prostitute, plain and simple.

From everything I have read here written by YOU about your wife (including why you have to remain a lawyer despite your utter boredom with the practice of law), that paragraph just described her.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Paigs, show some dignity. Really. You will get the mother of all hairy-backed bald-headed Viagra-snorting gold-medallion-wearing pimp-car-driving total assholes by debasing yourself this way. And you know you're reading this so just take my advice.

The book calls for compromising one's ideals in a man and being willing to tolerate humiliation. Dignity is for smug marrieds.

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by dtb
Thank you for reminding me -- I meant to include before that, if these issues are not discussed and agreed upon prior to getting into a marriage, it likely doesn't bode too well for the marriage. (And you've helpfully provided anectodal evidence -- so thanks again!)

Yeah, but the question of what to do when one party flat-out changes their mind mid-stream is a tough one. For (annecdotal) example: the Mr. and I have always assumed I'll work, and earn a shit-load of a lot more money than the Mr. ever will. We've also always assumed that the Mr. will be primary caregiver when we have kids, and that whatever high-minded occupation he takes on will more-or-less permit that (e.g.: he may work, but if the kids get sick or daycare burns down, he is the one to stay home or figure it out). This was discussed and agreed to be mutually pleasing pre-marriage.

But, what if, upon having kids, we discover that I want to be a SAHM? What if the Mr. discovers that, to his surprise, he doesn't really like all children, he just likes children that he can send home with their parents, but he can't get a job to replace my income? What if, kids or mortgage or no, I finally have a nerveous breakdown and quit to paint bad watercolors of dolphins, leaving neither of us with any viable means of support? All stuff that can legitimately happen.

Should the pre-agreement hold without mutual consent? Can my Mr. indenture me to my job for the sake of his previously negotiated stay-at-home status? Can I effectively unilaterally force him into a different career to pay the mortgage? Can I say "OK, I'll keep working and you take care of the kids and do your [insert flex-schedule intellectually-rewarding thing here], but we're moving to Oklahoma City so I can come home at 5"?

I've been thinking along these lines because I had a good chat with my Dad over Thanksgiving, in which we talked about my not liking the nature of my job very much (not the work itself, which is fine, but the unpredictablity of hours and demands and the toll that takes on everything else which makes them overpay me to try to get me addicted to the cash so I don't wise up and quit). He said he'd always had a hard time understanding why I was so unhappy (until I had to work 12+ hour days over the entire course of Thanksgiving vacation and, when asked why I didn't leave it to talk after dinner said "because this is my job, this is what they pay me for, to be available for the clients whenever they decide they need it, and if I tell the partner I'm not doing this 'til Monday or just don't do it I'm fired" - then he understood what I've been bitching about for years a little better), because his lawyer (solo-prac with an associate, does everything from wills to small contracts to divorces and slip and falls) LOVES his job. His lawyer also goes home no later than 5 every day of the week and never, ever works weekends, takes 6 weeks of vacations a year, etc. He finally figured out that all lawyers don't do that. (I finally figured out why I look at his business papers and think "shit, Dad needs a lawyer.")

Anyhow, he talked about how, back when I was 5 or 6 or so, he decided, unilaterally, to leave his cushy, tracked, Fortune 500 job at which he was very successfull and take his life savings and buy into a speculative new business in a new town. He said he just couldn't take the big-firm pressures any more (in his case - travel 5 days a week, continual sales targets, etc. - different pressures, but still part of the "I'm not in control of my life/cog in a machine" thing that grates on many of us), and felt he had to do it. My mother cried for weeks, thinking he was cursing her to penury and risking her future (my mother, incidentally, quit her job the moment she got engaged. She had (has) significantly better education and credentials than my dad did. It was the '70s, whatever). But he did it anyway. And, for him, the gamble paid off. But it might not have. And we talked for a while about needing to take risk, take control, that taking control is taking responsibility and, therefore, taking risk, etc.

Just a long way of saying I have a cool dad. Just because there's nothing new under the sun doesn't mean you're an incompetent for going through the same thing all over again.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
2) I am not serious. I assure you I am.

Well then, google "dennis kucinich"* and "wife" and you may find your future hubby sooner than you realize.


*someone please jump in if I have misspelled his name

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by bilmore
You need more information to make this choice. Specifically, you need her reaction.

Tonight, you stand in front of your window naked.

If she soon appears at your door, then you should move on to the question of "how badly do I really need that deposit money".

If the police appear at your door, take it as further support for your initial decision to move.

Wasn't this a SexintheCity episode?
If he flashes her back and then runs into her in the grocery store, he'll just find out that she was mooning the hot woman who lives above him.

Originally posted by robustpuppy
The book calls for compromising one's ideals in a man and being willing to tolerate humiliation. Dignity is for smug marrieds.

Had she not been on ignore (denial isnt a river in egypt, pj) I woud have responded exactly the same.

the book description didnt say how far I had to go in lowering my standards.

I am game. Hook me, people.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
...or MP3 if you know how to use one (I don't)?

(1) Wilco: Summerteeth (can't get enough)
(2) Outkast: the new one (following the masses (hi E/O!))
(3) Pearl Jam: Lost Dogs, etc. (angry Eddie)
(4) John Denver & the Muppets (nothing is better than hearing Beeker chime in on "The 12 Days of X-mas")
(5) The "High Fidelity" soundtrack (always finds its way back)

And you?

Obviously from my new sig. line, I've been listening to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot in the car. Here at work, it's the following new stuff:

(1) Jay-Z: The Black Album
(2) Damien Rice: O
(3) Jet: Get Born
(4) Strokes: Room on Fire
(5) Death Cab for Cutie: Transatlanticism
(6) The Shins: Chutes Too Narrow
(7) The Stills: Logic WilL Break Your Heart
(8) Elliott Smith: Figure 8
(9) Transplants: Transplants

Originally posted by Not Me
Well then, google "dennis kucinich"* and "wife" and you may find your future hubby sooner than you realize.


*someone please jump in if I have misspelled his name

his last name looks like it is pronounced coochie. Surely there is a footnote in the bible that says I dont have to marry that kind of last name.

[Pinky]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
...or MP3 if you know how to use one (I don't)?

(1) Wilco: Summerteeth (can't get enough)
(2) Outkast: the new one (following the masses (hi E/O!))
(3) Pearl Jam: Lost Dogs, etc. (angry Eddie)
(4) John Denver & the Muppets (nothing is better than hearing Beeker chime in on "The 12 Days of X-mas")
(5) The "High Fidelity" soundtrack (always finds its way back)

And you?

Jay Z: The Black Album
Biggie: Life after Death (disc 2)
South Park Christmas Album
Eminem: The Eminem Show
Pharcyde: Bizzarre Ride
Tupac: Greatest Hits

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Obviously from my new sig. line, I've been listening to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot in the car. Here at work, it's the following new stuff:

(1) Jay-Z: The Black Album
(2) Damien Rice: O
(3) Jet: Get Born
(4) Strokes: Room on Fire
(5) Death Cab for Cutie: Transatlanticism
(6) The Shins: Chutes Too Narrow
(7) The Stills: Logic WilL Break Your Heart
(8) Elliott Smith: Figure 8
(9) Transplants: Transplants

I hate to ever say Less is right (but he isnt here so I may be safe) but he is right when he says that there is a monthly poll that allows people to post what their favorite music is so we can get to know a little more about them and they can show up how cutting edge they are.

But he isnt marriage minded so he is not eligible.