Fashion Board 12-09-03 through 1-08-04

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by idle acts
Good news for you: bourbon, brandy, gin, rum, tequila, vodka, and whiskey all have ZERO carbs. And beef jerky has more than you think: 3.1.

Details for all your favorites here:
http://atkins.com/global/carb-counter/

You needed Atkins to tell you its wiser to drink booze than beer? I love beer, but after first semester of college, I realized just what beer does to a person's appearance. I think beer drinkers actually age faster than wine and booze swillers. I don't know any wine fans who spill over the stools at bars or look like Chris Farley in their suits. The beer drinkers I know look like shit. I think its got something to do with the massive amount of calories they're intaking. I'll go out and have four or five galsses of the hard stuff or a bottle of champagne and maybe an Amstel, while these guys will suck down four or five Sierra Nevadas or 8 Budweisers. And beer offers no bang for the buck. You have to drink a gallon of the stuff to get a buzz, and the buzz is a lousy sloppy, lethargic feeling. It also makes you smell. If you have three or four drinks, you may have a slight odor of booze, but beer is like garlic - it gets in your pores and oozes out everywhere.

I notice a lot of beer drinkers are ex frat guys who use the stuff like prozac. It gets them neither high nor low and it tastes good with wings. They get fatter and get laid less and less and become "guy's guys." Thankfully, my libido never allowed me to join that slow death dirge.

Now of course, nothing beats a Samuel Smith's Chrsitmas Ale or a fresh Anchor steam from the tap. But they're like hot fudge sundaes. You can't have five or them...

When I say Atkins is a no brainer, I am not calling its followers stupid. I am just saying its not something you need to count calories with or obsess over or measure portions or think about ingredients (the food is generally unprocessed I am assuming).

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
uh, doesn't that kind of run afoul of the no/low-carbs aspect of the atkins diet?

No idea. But if this stupid diet is going to count sugar as a no-no, therefore interfering with my once-a-week truly exquisite cupcake indulgence, I think Dr. Atkins must've been one vicious s.o.b.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You needed Atkins to tell you its wiser to drink booze than beer? I love beer, but after first semester of college, I realized just what beer does to a person's appearance. I think beer drinkers actually age faster than wine and booze swillers. I don't know any wine fans who spill over the stools at bars or look like Chris Farley in their suits. The beer drinkers I know look like shit. I think its got something to do with the massive amount of calories they're intaking. I'll go out and have four or five galsses of the hard stuff or a bottle of champagne and maybe an Amstel, while these guys will suck down four or five Sierra Nevadas or 8 Budweisers. And beer offers no bang for the buck. You have to drink a gallon of the stuff to get a buzz, and the buzz is a lousy sloppy, lethargic feeling. It also makes you smell. If you have three or four drinks, you may have a slight odor of booze, but beer is like garlic - it gets in your pores and oozes out everywhere.

I notice a lot of beer drinkers are ex frat guys who use the stuff like prozac. It gets them neither high nor low and it tastes good with wings. They get fatter and get laid less and less and become "guy's guys." Thankfully, my libido never allowed me to join that slow death dirge.

Now of course, nothing beats a Samuel Smith's Chrsitmas Ale or a fresh Anchor steam from the tap. But they're like hot fudge sundaes. You can't have five or them...

I enjoy the less "bang for the buck" aspect. The process of drinking is just as enjoyable as the effect (IMO). You can just chug some Everclear if you want true efficiency. Plus, while I enjoy a martini, it's not going to quench my thirst. And Sequels only tells me I smell after I drink booze, but not beer.

Then again, I'm a runner and need quite a bit more calories and carbs than the average person, so I haven't paid for them (through weight gain) like the people you mention. There's a reason marathons offer you bagels and Sam Adams at the finish line...

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by idle acts
Good news for you: bourbon, brandy, gin, rum, tequila, vodka, and whiskey all have ZERO carbs. And beef jerky has more than you think: 3.1.

Okay, let's stop this before it starts. I have a couple of in-laws on the Adkins diet, and this drives me crazy.

Carbs are not a unit of measure. Servings of food contain grams of carbohydrates.

Saying something has 3.1 carbs per serving is like running fingernails over the chalkboard. Please, let's not start.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Coltrane, I totally concur but I think what people like about this diet is that it gives them easy rules and structure. Its a no brainer really. Plus I am guessing its easier to not binge on gray flab slices than on whole grain bread. So its less calories in than they might do with just a whole grains, veggies and fruit and olive oil diet which is proven to prevent cancer and heart disease. So long as it shrinks the fat asses I see around here and I forget about the animal slaughter toll, I say go for it.

I competely agree. It's a logical and easy short-term diet. I just don't think people should sustain it.

Plus, it's probably a lot cheaper than shopping at Whole Foods.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I enjoy the less "bang for the buck" aspect. The process of drinking is just as enjoyable as the effect (IMO). You can just chug some Everclear if you want true efficiency. Plus, while I enjoy a martini, it's not going to quench my thirst. And Sequels only tells me I smell after I drink booze, but not beer.

Then again, I'm a runner and need quite a bit more calories and carbs than the average person, so I haven't paid for them (through weight gain) like the people you mention. There's a reason marathons offer you bagels and Sam Adams at the finish line...

Coltrane, you're the exception to the rule. Most beer addicts don't run. There's a reason Norm was such a recognizable stereotype.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I think beer drinkers actually age faster than wine and booze swillers.

Dissent. Gin drinkers age faster than all others. That stuff is pure fucking poison. All the hardcore alkys who die young are straight gin drinkers. Organic gardeners use the same basic stuff as an herbicide. Why do you think a drunk's nose is called a gin blossom?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Bread is a useless food.

Not when it is rye (with seeds) and you need somewhere to put a couple slices of Velveeta (mmm, processed cheese food) and some horseradish mustard while you drink your beer.


I don't know why everyone demonizes beer -- I am thin with quite a beer habit (and having a kid didn't help). If you start to feel that you are gaining a little weight just fast for a couple of days (still drink beer, of course) and get rid of it.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I competely agree. It's a logical and easy short-term diet. I just don't think people should sustain it.

Plus, it's probably a lot cheaper than shopping at Whole Foods.

I shop for my pseudo-Atkins at Whole Foods. They're the only joint in town with good lox, which is sad. The Jews in this town should be ashamed.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Plus, it's probably a lot cheaper than shopping at Whole Foods.

Cutting out the middleman and just eating the money would be cheaper than shopping at Whole Foods. High in fiber, too. Which is, however, a carbohydrate. Oh, the humanity!

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
Sort of on a dare, today is my first day on the Atkins plan. I expect this plan will be difficult for me since I was a vegetarian for six years (though no longer) and not a big meat eater. I am generally speaking a healthy eater (Interestingly enough, it is the drinking that keeps me from Tara Reid hipbones. Not that I want Tara Reid hipbones, but anyway.).

Anyone done this? Advice for food that can be eaten at work? I just don't see myself with beef jerky, though apparently I will during the next several weeks. I am a huge fruit and cereal person, which led to the dare.

I think the most difficult will be giving up caffiene and alcohol.

If it's only for 2 weeks, you can probably stick with it. But what was the dare and what do you get if you "win?"

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Dissent. Gin drinkers age faster than all others. That stuff is pure fucking poison. All the hardcore alkys who die young are straight gin drinkers. Organic gardeners use the same basic stuff as an herbicide. Why do you think a drunk's nose is called a gin blossom?

There may be something to this. I've helped keep the Beam family in high end German sedans for years, and my nose is as white as my ass. I can swill scotch, vodka, bourbon and champagne, but for the life of me, I cannot even get near a glass of gin. I don't know why, but you may have just explained it.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Cutting out the middleman and just eating the money would be cheaper than shopping at Whole Foods. High in fiber, too. Which is, however, a carbohydrate. Oh, the humanity!

Yes, they desperately need some competition. I'll head this movement. There's definitely more room in the market. Anyone have a half-billion they want to invest?

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
There may be something to this. I've helped keep the Beam family in high end German sedans for years, and my nose is as white as my ass. I can swill scotch, vodka, bourbon and champagne, but for the life of me, I cannot even get near a glass of gin. I don't know why, but you may have just explained it.

Because you have to be a truly committed alcoholic to be able to even tolerate the taste of gin. It's unbearable. And purposely adding quinine to it only magnifies the freakishness of the taste buds of these country-club drunks. Pass the whiskey, willya?