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Old 01-02-2004, 02:22 PM   #4036
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whole grains, veggies and fruit and olive oil diet which is proven to prevent cancer and heart disease.
How come no one mentions this? Most people aren't even aware of it. I mentioned cancer pervention to someone regarding this type of diet and he thought I was crazy. Isn't there a Harvard medical study I can cite?
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Old 01-02-2004, 02:23 PM   #4037
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Yes, they desperately need some competition. I'll head this movement. There's definitely more room in the market. Anyone have a half-billion they want to invest?
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Old 01-02-2004, 02:29 PM   #4038
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How come no one mentions this? Most people aren't even aware of it. I mentioned cancer pervention to someone regarding this type of diet and he thought I was crazy. Isn't there a Harvard medical study I can cite?
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High protein (high fat) diets are in vogue today and are heavily promoted. Unfortunately they are also dangerous. The popularity of these books is evidence that people are looking for a quick, effortless way to lose weight without having to curtail their dangerous love affair with rich, unhealthful foods. People are desperate to lose weight and these books preach what people want to hear; that you can still eat lots of cholesterol and saturated fat and still lose weight. This illicit romance can lead to tragic consequences, with some people literally dying to lose weight.

High protein diet gurus usually claim they know the truth and all other doctors and scientists are wrong. They promote the idea that their recommended diet is healthy. They would have their devotees believe there is a worldwide conspiracy, including more than 3500 scientific studies, involving more than 15,000 research scientists, reporting a relationship between the consumption of meats, poultry, eggs and dairy products, with heart disease, cancer, kidney failure, constipation, gallstones, diverticulosis, and hemorrhoids, just to name a few.

You can lose some weight on the Atkins’ Diet, but you will damage your health at the same time.

Following Atkins’ recommendations could more than double your risk of certain cancers, especially of meat-sensitive cancers3, such as epithelial cancers of the respiratory tract.4
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Old 01-02-2004, 02:32 PM   #4039
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If it's only for 2 weeks, you can probably stick with it. But what was the dare and what do you get if you "win?"
Over the holidays I was sort-of kidding about "getting in shape"* for this silly cruise my in-laws are taking us on and my brother-in-law** said I could do Atkins, but he doubted I could stick to it. Then it became "you cannot stick to it" and "I will give up Bacardi for two weeks if you can stick to Atkins for two weeks." I took the dare.

*I am neither overweight nor out of shape, though I am closer to Drew Barrymore than Lara Flynn Boyle. My dislike of butter and meat and basically everything else Atkins is well-known.

**My brother-in-law smokes a pack a day and drinks two family size bottles of Bacardi per non-celebratory week. I've seen him go through a family size Bacardi in an evening (starting around 4:30 p.m. and going until 5:30 a.m.).
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Old 01-02-2004, 02:41 PM   #4040
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Over the holidays I was sort-of kidding about "getting in shape"* for this silly cruise my in-laws are taking us on and my brother-in-law** said I could do Atkins, but he doubted I could stick to it. Then it became "you cannot stick to it" and "I will give up Bacardi for two weeks if you can stick to Atkins for two weeks." I took the dare.

*I am neither overweight nor out of shape, though I am closer to Drew Barrymore than Lara Flynn Boyle. My dislike of butter and meat and basically everything else Atkins is well-known.

**My brother-in-law smokes a pack a day and drinks two family size bottles of Bacardi per non-celebratory week. I've seen him go through a family size Bacardi in an evening (starting around 4:30 p.m. and going until 5:30 a.m.).
Sounds like you're doing him a favor - or his liver at least. He may go into shock.

If you stick to the broiled chicken and/or turkey and/or tofu and veggies you should be able to do 2 weeks standing on your head.
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Old 01-02-2004, 02:43 PM   #4041
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**My brother-in-law smokes a pack a day and drinks two family size bottles of Bacardi per non-celebratory week. I've seen him go through a family size Bacardi in an evening (starting around 4:30 p.m. and going until 5:30 a.m.).
I think he will have more trouble than you will. Unless he is allowed to replace bacardi with another form of rum, or he has a second drink he is allowed to drink.

Just eat a lot of fish and chicken. No need to get into all the red meat, especially right now.

Also, as far as atkins, try diet tonic water.

By the way, I like gin and my nose is just fine. I don't drink it straight though. I also don't drink it a lot. I tend to mix things up. Lately I seem to be into vodka.

edited because apparently I cannot spell meat.
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Old 01-02-2004, 02:44 PM   #4042
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*Needless to say, you should also not sell anything bought or processed, or process anything bought or sold.

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Old 01-02-2004, 02:48 PM   #4043
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When I say Atkins is a no brainer, I am not calling its followers stupid. I am just saying its not something you need to count calories with or obsess over or measure portions or think about ingredients (the food is generally unprocessed I am assuming).
You don't count calories, but you do obsess over ingredients, etc., because of the need to count/reduce carbs. How obsessed you get depends on how strict you want to be.

The good thing about it is that you don't feel hungry. A diet where you can eat a porterhouse without breaking the rules is a nice thing. Just order veggies instead of the baked potato. And eat a big salad before (and maybe some oysters). And get the cheese plate for dessert.

In the long run, it's probably hell on the heart, even though the salads and veggies offset this to some extent. But carrying around 25 pounds of fat on your body is not exactly a treat for the heart either.
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**My brother-in-law smokes a pack a day and drinks two family size bottles of Bacardi per non-celebratory week. I've seen him go through a family size Bacardi in an evening (starting around 4:30 p.m. and going until 5:30 a.m.).
Being a beer consumer I am lost -- what is a "family size" bottle of rum? On whose family is this sizing based?

On New Year's Eve I drank a bottle of champagne (to chase the 6 pack of beer, naturally) -- obviously not quite family size as there was none left to share.
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Sounds like you're doing him a favor
Actually, it's for my sister-in-law. She is at her wits end.
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On the advice of someone on this board, I purchased pork rinds for lunch. Holy shit are they terrible. Ill. I bet I lose 25 pounds in two weeks because the only things I can eat make me want to hurl.
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On the advice of someone on this board, I purchased pork rinds for lunch. Holy shit are they terrible. Ill. I bet I lose 25 pounds in two weeks because the only things I can eat make me want to hurl.
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Old 01-02-2004, 03:00 PM   #4048
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Dissent. Gin drinkers age faster than all others. That stuff is pure fucking poison. All the hardcore alkys who die young are straight gin drinkers. Organic gardeners use the same basic stuff as an herbicide. Why do you think a drunk's nose is called a gin blossom?
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Old 01-02-2004, 03:03 PM   #4049
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How come no one mentions this? Most people aren't even aware of it. I mentioned cancer pervention to someone regarding this type of diet and he thought I was crazy. Isn't there a Harvard medical study I can cite?
I think there was some Harvard vesus Yale, atkins versus mediteranean type diet thing posterd here but I am trapped under a sea of dead trees and cant serach at the moment.

My bad cholesterol is so low and my good high that my doctoer actually asked me if I ate a lot of olive oil. (I do, probalby five times a week)
 
Old 01-02-2004, 03:16 PM   #4050
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How come no one mentions this? Most people aren't even aware of it. I mentioned cancer pervention to someone regarding this type of diet and he thought I was crazy. Isn't there a Harvard medical study I can cite?
Fuck those Harvard faeries. Harvard breeds the sort of man who gets out of the shower to take a piss.
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