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Old 07-15-2005, 02:39 PM   #4066
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Despite your obsession with Wilson, which is starting to seem similar to your obsession with paigow, Wilson is not the issue. It's Turd Blossom.
Is this like your obsession with Rove ... and me?
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:40 PM   #4067
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A top White House economic adviser is predicting that better-than-expected tax revenue may put this year`s federal budget deficit "well below" previous estimates....

White House officials say the shriking deficit is a sign that President Bush`s tax-cutting policies are working.
Reality check on the voodoo economics.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:44 PM   #4068
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I really hope that W's vaunted loyalty doesn't cause him to mess this up and try to keep him, but I'm not confident. If Rove wants what's good for the admin, he'll resign before he's under even more of a cloud.
Rove can probably accomplish more from outside a formal position in the White House than within it, so in the long run, it could be a win/win for the WH if he steps down.

As to security clearance, what ever happened to the Sandy Berger inverstigation?
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:46 PM   #4069
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This misses the point. The freedom hating Islamofascists have and always will hate us -- for our freedom (duh). Our actions are entirely irrelevant, because the "Arab Street" is not comprised of people with opinions that can be swayed in one direction or another by U.S. action (or the exercise of restraint), but is rather a solid mass of shrieking fanatics who lust (lust! I say) for our blood. See, e.g., Pony Trekker for suggested approaches to this seemingly intractable problem.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:48 PM   #4070
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From what I vaguely remember from some kind of IP class I took because it fit into my "no classes Mon or Fri" schedule, you don't ahve ot register to get copyright protection, but in your scenario the group is trying to register their trademark.

God, this is boringer than taxes. Hank, will you please explain this? Or Gatti. anyone.
There are a variety of public policy rationales for it. Google reveals one summary that club will particularly like, in that the article argues in favor of changing the law to permit registration of offensive marks. Read away, club.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:48 PM   #4071
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Rove can probably accomplish more from outside a formal position in the White House than within it, so in the long run, it could be a win/win for the WH if he steps down.

As to security clearance, what ever happened to the Sandy Berger inverstigation?
Berger plead guilty. Karl should become a frelancer like Lee Atwater. Who wouldn't hire him? He could also do the talk show circuit with Carville and Matalin and Gingrich. One thing's for certain, the future is incredibly bright for Karl no matter what happens. The man revolutionized the way politics is played.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:48 PM   #4072
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I am not inspired to trust this correspondent's judgment. But maybe I'm wrong, and all the teens in the middle east are really slacker mall rats.

BR(Yemen, New Jersey - people all over the world really are the same after all!)C
Didn't you see that hysterical Yemeni film "Muhammad and Abu Go To White Castle"?
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:49 PM   #4073
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Rove can probably accomplish more from outside a formal position in the White House than within it, so in the long run, it could be a win/win for the WH if he steps down.
Perhaps he can use the same number Dick Morris used to call.

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As to security clearance, what ever happened to the Sandy Berger inverstigation?
I'm guessing Sandy no longer has his security clearance.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:51 PM   #4074
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One thing's for certain, the future is incredibly bright for Karl no matter what happens.
Unless he's in the pokey. I'm not saying that's likely, but we don't know. Just about all of the facts ("facts") being kicked around are being leaked by defense lawyers, so we shouldn't be surprised that they don't make things look so bad. Meanwhile, we really don't know what kind of case Fitzgerald is putting together. Maybe he has a lot more. Maybe he doesn't.

That said, even if Rove had to do some time, he'd surely have a long list of clients waiting for him when he got out.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:52 PM   #4075
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This misses the point. The freedom hating Islamofascists have and always will hate us -- for our freedom (duh). Our actions are entirely irrelevant, because the "Arab Street" is not comprised of people with opinions that can be swayed in one direction or another by U.S. action (or the exercise of restraint), but is rather a solid mass of shrieking fanatics who lust (lust! I say) for our blood. See, e.g., Pony Trekker for suggested approaches to this seemingly intractable problem.
They don't hate our freedom as much as they hate our standard of living.

Everyone has a price. Give them cheap leased German cars, a robust housing market, flat screen televisions and 401ks and they'll be our bestest ever friends.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:54 PM   #4076
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Unless he's in the pokey. I'm not saying that's likely, but we don't know. Just about all of the facts ("facts") being kicked around are being leaked by defense lawyers, so we shouldn't be surprised that they don't make things look so bad. Meanwhile, we really don't know what kind of case Fitzgerald is putting together. Maybe he has a lot more. Maybe he doesn't.

That said, even if Rove had to do some time, he'd surely have a long list of clients waiting for him when he got out.
He'll be as sad and ruined as Michael Milken.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:57 PM   #4077
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I'm guessing Sandy no longer has his security clearance.
I think that one of the keys to his plea was that a misdemeanor would not prevent him from getting the security clearance in the future. The question is moot until 2008.

Berger may have been stupid with secrets, but he was not intentionally sharing them.

If Rove were convicted of a felony and pardoned, could he get a security clearance?
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:57 PM   #4078
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I'm guessing Sandy no longer has his security clearance.
I just googled. Sandy pled out and got (i) no prison time, (ii)
a $10,000 fine, and (iii) a three-year revocation of his security clearance.

Who the hell approved that deal. Sheesh.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:58 PM   #4079
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They don't hate our freedom as much as they hate our standard of living.
I liked it better when it was envy, not hate.
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Old 07-15-2005, 03:03 PM   #4080
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I just googled. Sandy pled out and got (i) no prison time, (ii)
a $10,000 fine, and (iii) a three-year revocation of his security clearance.

Who the hell approved that deal. Sheesh.
Indeed.

OTOH, if Sandy's breach of security by taking copies of his notes led to the death of any agents or other blown operations, I'm sure we'd have heard about it.
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