Making Baby Jesus Cry

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It's arrogant. And who decides what is "suitable"? You?

Since I'm the one who offered to match, yes, me.

Personally, I find your alleged efforts to bring people to Seattle, if true, quite admirable.

Perhaps, however, you might want to give a good think as to why I might be skeptical of your sincerity.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Nice. I've said repeatedly that I don't care what organization one gives to.

This is the kind of politics of personal destruction I've come to expect from you, though, so I'm not too bothered.

This is what you said:

"I have nothing more to say on the topic for now. Except that people who don't give money to the Red Cross are chumps."

That does not say I don't care what org you give to, it says if you don't give to the red Cross you are a chump. Or am I reading it wrong? I am not trying to be insulting, I just don't understand the tone of the message. Why is someone who gives to one of the many other charitable organizations doing good works in NO and the other hurricane zones a chump? Why am I a chump for trying to bring displaced children to Seattle so they can continue to go to school and have a home etc during the period of their displacement? Oddly when I made the offer the people I made it to thanked me. Apparently they didn't know they were involved in chumpery.

Or are you retracting the statement?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
This is what you said:

"I have nothing more to say on the topic for now. Except that people who don't give money to the Red Cross are chumps."

That does not say I don't care what org you give to, it says if you don't give to the red Cross you are a chump. Or am I reading it wrong? I am not trying to be insulting, I just don't understand the tone of the message. Why is someone who gives to one of the many other charitable organizations doing good works in NO and the other hurricane zones a chump? Why am I a chump for trying to bring displaced children to Seattle so they can continue to go to school and have a home etc during the period of their displacement? Oddly when I made the offer the people I made it to thanked me. Apparently they didn't know they were involved in chumpery.

Or are you retracting the statement?

I for one do not think these children should be raised in Seattle, even for a few months. the rabble that frequents your public spaces present a very poor idea of how to behave in our country. Perhaps you can convince not bob to care for the child.

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
This is what you said:

"I have nothing more to say on the topic for now. Except that people who don't give money to the Red Cross are chumps."

That does not say I don't care what org you give to, it says if you don't give to the red Cross you are a chump. Or am I reading it wrong? I am not trying to be insulting, I just don't understand the tone of the message. Why is someone who gives to one of the many other charitable organizations doing good works in NO and the other hurricane zones a chump? Why am I a chump for trying to bring displaced children to Seattle so they can continue to go to school and have a home etc during the period of their displacement? Oddly when I made the offer the people I made it to thanked me. Apparently they didn't know they were involved in chumpery.

Or are you retracting the statement?

Fine. I am retracting the statement and replacing it with "People who don't give money or other donations, or volunteer time with an organization that provides relief to, in this case, victims of Katrina, but more in general, relief to those in need, in accordance with their resources, are chumps."

Happy now?

[Southern Patriot]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
2. I have to agree with this. Penske is a hate sock

This? First Spanky admits that Bush was partly to blame for the situation and now you attack Penske. And Penske today saying he has doubts about crosses.

Please, Bitch.

We need a united front against the godless, against the homosexual, and against the liberal, the yankees, and the San Franciscans who seem to be all these things.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
You have not commented on Nagin's fuckups which preceded and set up every other entities' fuck ups.

And why is the Red Cross the end all be all of charitable organizations? I have given to other organizations and am working with a non-red cross organization to bring kids (and possibly families) to Seattle during the period of their displacement so that the kids can attend private schools in seattle during such period. I suppose all the people in this effourt are chumps. I let them all know you say so.

I would have liked to have donated to something other than the Red Cross, and I waited patiently for that charity to reveal itself to me. As Doctors Without Borders and animal charities have in the past. At the end of the day, I decided in this case that the Red Cross was the way to go. Many of the smaller efforts in this case have already maxed out. Which is good news, of course, but it left me with the Red Cross. They have costs associated with those long term shelters that are not small. So I'm reasonably optimistic that the money spent there in this case will actually benefit some of the hurricane victims. As opposed to other times I have sent donations their way.

I'm not a fan of the prodding to donate either. People will give or will not based on their own values and trying to guilt people into it is pointless and irritating to listen to. I donated to the Red Cross today finally (well, my household already gave to animal charities and to charities that receive matching funds from our workplaces), but it was not for lack of a plan to donate. Only for a lack of clarity as to how my donation will be best put to use. I've done the early donation thing after certain other disasters and later wished I could change the recipient, so this time I really thought it out.

If I were still in Dallas, I'm sure I would personally be doing more, as all my friends there and in Houston are. I feel a bit helpless being this far away despite the fact that people touched by the disaster are now congregating in my former city and so many friends of mine there have been personally touched by the devastation.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Since I'm the one who offered to match, yes, me.

I'm not putting in for your matching so I guess we are even on that point.

Originally posted by baltassoc

Personally, I find your alleged efforts to bring people to Seattle, if true, quite admirable.

Perhaps, however, you might want to give a good think as to why I might be skeptical of your sincerity.

Because knowing someone in a very limited and anonymous context on the internet gives you deep insight?

I have been involved in community service in each of the communities I have lived in for 25 years. I don't need you to validate me. Whatever great knowledge you think you have gleaned from my posts here is meaningless in the real world.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Fine. I am retracting the statement and replacing it with "People who don't give money or other donations, or volunteer time with an organization that provides relief to, in this case, victims of Katrina, but more in general, relief to those in need, in accordance with their resources, are chumps."

Happy now?

Yes. More so because you appear to be a stand up sort of chap (to the limited extent one can tell in this context) and I don't think you were meaning to come across in the way you came across.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Whatever great knowledge you think you have gleaned from my posts here is meaningless in the real world.

I have come to believe you have great amounts of free time in your workday. Bullseye?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I for one do not think these children should be raised in Seattle, even for a few months. the rabble that frequents your public spaces present a very poor idea of how to behave in our country.

I don't disagree. Sadly it is the best and brightest of the modern day liberals.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I would have liked to have donated to something other than the Red Cross, and I waited patiently for that charity to reveal itself to me. As Doctors Without Borders and animal charities have in the past. At the end of the day, I decided in this case that the Red Cross was the way to go. Many of the smaller efforts in this case have already maxed out. Which is good news, of course, but it left me with the Red Cross. They have costs associated with those long term shelters that are not small. So I'm reasonably optimistic that the money spent there in this case will actually benefit some of the hurricane victims. As opposed to other times I have sent donations their way.

I'm not a fan of the prodding to donate either. People will give or will not based on their own values and trying to guilt people into it is pointless and irritating to listen to. I donated to the Red Cross today finally (well, my household already gave to animal charities and to charities that receive matching funds from our workplaces), but it was not for lack of a plan to donate. Only for a lack of clarity as to how my donation will be best put to use. I've done the early donation thing after certain other disasters and later wished I could change the recipient, so this time I really thought it out.

If I were still in Dallas, I'm sure I would personally be doing more, as all my friends there and in Houston are. I feel a bit helpless being this far away despite the fact that people touched by the disaster are now congregating in my former city and so many friends of mine there have been personally touched by the devastation.

You are not a chump.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I for one do not think these children should be raised in Seattle, even for a few months. the rabble that frequents your public spaces present a very poor idea of how to behave in our country. Perhaps you can convince not bob to care for the child.

Penske, you’re not from Banff? You dick. That plane ticket was $1300.00.

Touche, I guess. I should’ve suspected there was no 123 Goldwater Way up there.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I have come to believe you have great amounts of free time in your workday. Bullseye?

I procrastinate a lot. Somehow I still manage to get 7 billable hours in to each day. 365 a year.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
I would have liked to have donated to something other than the Red Cross, and I waited patiently for that charity to reveal itself to me. As Doctors Without Borders and animal charities have in the past. At the end of the day, I decided in this case that the Red Cross was the way to go. Many of the smaller efforts in this case have already maxed out. Which is good news, of course, but it left me with the Red Cross. They have costs associated with those long term shelters that are not small. So I'm reasonably optimistic that the money spent there in this case will actually benefit some of the hurricane victims. As opposed to other times I have sent donations their way.

I'm not a fan of the prodding to donate either. People will give or will not based on their own values and trying to guilt people into it is pointless and irritating to listen to. I donated to the Red Cross today finally (well, my household already gave to animal charities and to charities that receive matching funds from our workplaces), but it was not for lack of a plan to donate. Only for a lack of clarity as to how my donation will be best put to use. I've done the early donation thing after certain other disasters and later wished I could change the recipient, so this time I really thought it out.

If I were still in Dallas, I'm sure I would personally be doing more, as all my friends there and in Houston are. I feel a bit helpless being this far away despite the fact that people touched by the disaster are now congregating in my former city and so many friends of mine there have been personally touched by the devastation.

I believe the victims share in the blame. That is why I'm punishing the child by sending her to Penske.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Penske, you’re not from Banff? You dick. That plane ticket was $1300.00.

Touche, I guess. I should’ve suspected there was no 123 Goldwater Way up there.

Touche, indeed. Not banff, I am honourary citisen of Penticton.